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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 01:12:38 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: John Fong 
Subject: Shirley's old karaoke

Hello,

Just wondering did PolyGram released a video CD which has some good oldies
instead of recent hits?  Hope they will put Shirley's
"Lan Dak Yau Ching Yan" ( o   H ^ on it since I really like this
song =)

later...

John Y. Fong
jfong@sfsu.edu
http://sfsu.edu/~jfong

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Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 01:12:38 -0800
From: John Fong 

Hello,

Just wondering did PolyGram released a video CD which has some good oldies
instead of recent hits?  Hope they will put Shirley's
"Lan Dak Yau Ching Yan" ( o   H ^ on it since I really like this
song =)

later...

John Y. Fong
jfong@sfsu.edu
http://sfsu.edu/~jfong

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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:41:43 +0800 (HKT)
From: LEUNG MING KAN 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's old karaoke

On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, John Fong wrote:

> Just wondering did PolyGram released a video CD which has some good oldies
> instead of recent hits?  Hope they will put Shirley's

Nope. There's still no VCD of Shirley officially released by Polygram (HK).

[LMK :P]

 < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL: mkleung@cs.cuhk.edu.hk >


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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:41:43 +0800 (HKT)
From: LEUNG MING KAN 

On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, John Fong wrote:

> Just wondering did PolyGram released a video CD which has some good oldies
> instead of recent hits?  Hope they will put Shirley's

Nope. There's still no VCD of Shirley officially released by Polygram (HK).

[LMK :P]

 < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL: mkleung@cs.cuhk.edu.hk >


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Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 10:14:16 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: John Fong 
Subject: Re: Shirley's old karaoke

At 11:41 PM 11/1/96 +0800, you wrote:

>Nope. There's still no VCD of Shirley officially released by Polygram (HK).

That's sad =(  I doubt that will it be one since Shirley will not be with
PolyGram anymore...

Thanks for the information though.

John Y. Fong
jfong@sfsu.edu
http://sfsu.edu/~jfong

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 02:43:57 -0500
From: Brent Bowman 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

William Lau wrote:
> 
> Dear shirley's fans,
>         Today's Apple Daily said that "fei tao"want Shirley to join them.In
> fact,I don't like "fei tao".I think "fei tao"can't let Shirley to be the
> top one.However,I will support Shirley's choice!:-)
> 
> William Lau

The question is, Can they afford her?  Isn't $$$ the main reason she
is leaving Polyram?
What other performers are with "fei tao"?

--- Brent

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 16:58:55 +0800
From: William Lau 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Dear shirley's fans,
	Today's Apple Daily said that "fei tao"want Shirley to join them.In
fact,I don't like "fei tao".I think "fei tao"can't let Shirley to be the
top one.However,I will support Shirley's choice!:-)

William Lau

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:05:24 -0500
From: Brent Bowman 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Pak-kwan Fredredick Au wrote:
> 
> Dear Shirley's fans,
> Personally I dislike Fei tao. U see the sorry situation of Chris Wong
> (Wong Hoi Kan) and Joyce Lee (Lee Lok Sze), I don't think it would do
> any good for Shirley to join fei tao. Comparatively speaking, Go East or
> BMG seem to be much better!
> Frederick Au

Here's a few of the better labels that I think she could do good at:

EMI, Warner, Rock Records, or even BMG.  Personally, I would just
like to Polygram strike a deal with her and keep her.
Perhaps maybe Polygram's daughter company Cinepoly can sign her!

--- Brent

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:08:14 -0500
From: Brent Bowman 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

...stuff deleted...

> > You said Veronica Yip, I even don't know who's she... maybe I know her
> > chinese name anyway.  I know a singer called "Leung Ngan Ling" also
> > under "Fitto," but she's disappeared now... for some years, and "Fitto"
> > is disappeared for years... haaa.  At least I nearly forget this
> > company.  Don't worry, Shirley will have her right choice!!
> 
> How could you not know Veronica Yip?  It's [Yip Yuk Hing]!!

If anyone is interested in seeing a picture of Veronica Yip Yuk Hing,
I have a picture of her on my homepage.

http://soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~gundam/

(I still have plenty of work to do on my page, and I'm not totally 
ready to release it to the public, but anyone that wants a preview
of it can check it out.)

---- Brent

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:21:30 -0500
From: Brent Bowman 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Other than Fitto

> Well, well, well.  Did you forget or what?  Faye Wong's under that
> company and it's gonna be a hell of a fight for Shirley.  I don't think
> Cinepoly would be the right place.  Somehow I don't really like Warner
> Records HK either (for international, it's good though).  I think Rock
> would give Shirley complete freedom.  Also, Go East is still too
> "young," but certainly it has potential.  And if Shirley really
> considers Go East, she would be the top female singer in that company.
> Jo Jo

> Dear Shirley's fans,
> Similarly, EMI is not good for Shirley. Remember, there has already been
> a Cass Pang and a Ng Wing May (Christina Ng) in EMI. I don't think EMI
> would give Shirley full support.
> Frederick Au

Perhaps I didn't completely understand what this conversation was about.
I was just looking for a company that would be willing to pay her what
she wants to keep recording albums.
Apparently, you are looking for a label that will promote her to be
their
number one female performer.
I'm afraid I don't know enough about the different labels to make an
acurate guess at what can happen.

Personally, I like all of the other singers mentioned with the other
labels.  (Ie: Sandy Lam, Wong Faye, Cass Phang, Ng Wing Mei...).

Oh well,

--- Brent

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 03:48:42 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

> What other performers are with "fei tao"?
> 
> --- Brent

Well, the other performers are so crappy that i don't even remember.

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 20:00:11 +0800
From: Jaffe Ling 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Hi there,

Jo Jo wrote:
> 
> > What other performers are with "fei tao"?
> >
> > --- Brent
> 
> Well, the other performers are so crappy that i don't even remember.
> 
> Jo Jo
> --
> * My Secret Garden *

	Sure Shirley will be the number ONE singer of "Fitto" if she really
joined "Fitto," but the main concern is... "Fitto" is a not famous
record company, don't know whether they can produce good song for
Shirley.

Jaffe.

the `E Theatre
http://home.netvigator.com/~ysling/shirley

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:03:23 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

>         Sure Shirley will be the number ONE singer of "Fitto" if she > 
> really joined "Fitto," but the main concern is... "Fitto" is a not > 
> famous record company, don't know whether they can produce good song > 
> for Shirley.
> 
> Jaffe.
> 
> the `E Theatre
> http://home.netvigator.com/~ysling/shirley

You know what?  I highly doubt it.  If they produced good songs for 
Fitto's singers, where are all their singers now?  Veronica Yip the 
stripper?

Anyway, it's 4:05am in Canada and I'm doing my 7 pages essay overnight 
:)

Jo Jo

-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 20:15:13 +0800
From: Jaffe Ling 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Hi there,

Jo Jo wrote:
> 
> You know what?  I highly doubt it.  If they produced good songs for
> Fitto's singers, where are all their singers now?  Veronica Yip the
> stripper?
> 
> Anyway, it's 4:05am in Canada and I'm doing my 7 pages essay overnight
> :)

	Sure I'm sure the result is "false", they has no power to push a singer
to a higher status, even they cannot keep a singer's status.  Well...
You said Veronica Yip, I even don't know who's she... maybe I know her
chinese name anyway.  I know a singer called "Leung Ngan Ling" also
under "Fitto," but she's disappeared now... for some years, and "Fitto"
is disappeared for years... haaa.  At least I nearly forget this
company.  Don't worry, Shirley will have her right choice!!

	By the way, writing an essay on "Shirley Kwan's future"?  Kidding.

Jaffe.

the `E Theatre
http://home.netvigator.com/~ysling/shirley

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:19:27 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Jaffe Ling wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Jo Jo wrote:
> >
> > You know what?  I highly doubt it.  If they produced good songs for
> > Fitto's singers, where are all their singers now?  Veronica Yip the
> > stripper?
> >
> > Anyway, it's 4:05am in Canada and I'm doing my 7 pages essay overnight
> > :)
> 
>         Sure I'm sure the result is "false", they has no power to push a singer
> to a higher status, even they cannot keep a singer's status.  Well...
> You said Veronica Yip, I even don't know who's she... maybe I know her
> chinese name anyway.  I know a singer called "Leung Ngan Ling" also
> under "Fitto," but she's disappeared now... for some years, and "Fitto"
> is disappeared for years... haaa.  At least I nearly forget this
> company.  Don't worry, Shirley will have her right choice!!

How could you not know Veronica Yip?  It's [Yip Yuk Hing]!!


>         By the way, writing an essay on "Shirley Kwan's future"?  Kidding.

I Wish!!!


Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:41:11 -0800
From: Pak-kwan Fredredick Au 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Dear Shirley's fans,
Personally I dislike Fei tao. U see the sorry situation of Chris Wong
(Wong Hoi Kan) and Joyce Lee (Lee Lok Sze), I don't think it would do
any good for Shirley to join fei tao. Comparatively speaking, Go East or
BMG seem to be much better!
Frederick Au

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:51:24 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Pak-kwan Fredredick Au wrote:
> 
> Dear Shirley's fans,
> Personally I dislike Fei tao. U see the sorry situation of Chris Wong
> (Wong Hoi Kan) and Joyce Lee (Lee Lok Sze), I don't think it would do
> any good for Shirley to join fei tao. Comparatively speaking, Go East or
> BMG seem to be much better!
> Frederick Au

Yeah, but does anyone really know where Shirley's heading?  I mean, it's 
been quite a while.  I don't like Fitto too!  Actually, I think Rock 
Records would be somewhat appropriate for her.

Oh, by the way, I just bought Shirley's 
Polygram-88-whatever-compilation.  I can't hear any difference in terms 
of quality through my earphones.  Or maybe I should try some surround 
sound, eh?

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:57:26 -0800
From: Pak-kwan Fredredick Au 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Don't join "Fitto"!

Dear Shirley's fans,
Another major problem of "fitto" is that it seems to be financially
unstable, right?


FRED

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 05:06:51 -0800
From: Pak-kwan Fredredick Au 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

RE: Shirley should join Rock REcords?
I don't think so, Rock has Sandy Lam, So Wai Lun etc., and it is quite
clear that Rock is investing a lot on Sandy Lam (although her albums are
not so best-selling now, consider how much Rock has invested in her last
album "Perfect Sensation"!) , so it's not good for Shirley to join Rock.

> Oh, by the way, I just bought Shirley's
> Polygram-88-whatever-compilation.  I can't hear any difference in terms
> of quality through my earphones. 
Me too, I can't recognize any special sound effect from my Sony CD
Player. I personally am not very happy with this album, the songs are
much similar with her "Live Concert" albums! And I really like "Holy
Mary" (with Wong Yiu Ming) and "Love Me Now", but both are not included
in her "88" album -- I am a bit disappointed!

Frederick
> 
> Jo Jo
> --
> * My Secret Garden *

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 05:12:08 -0800
From: Pak-kwan Fredredick Au 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Dear Shirley's fans,
Similarly, EMI is not good for Shirley. Remember, there has already been
a Cass Pang and a Ng Wing May (Christina Ng) in EMI. I don't think EMI
would give Shirley full support.

Frederick Au

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 05:12:22 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Other than Fitto

Brent Bowman wrote:

> Perhaps maybe Polygram's daughter company Cinepoly can sign her!
> 
> --- Brent

Well, well, well.  Did you forget or what?  Faye Wong's under that 
company and it's gonna be a hell of a fight for Shirley.  I don't think 
Cinepoly would be the right place.  Somehow I don't really like Warner 
Records HK either (for international, it's good though).  I think Rock 
would give Shirley complete freedom.  Also, Go East is still too 
"young," but certainly it has potential.  And if Shirley really 
considers Go East, she would be the top female singer in that company.

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 05:20:45 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Where should she go then?

Pak-kwan Fredredick Au wrote:
> 
> Dear Shirley's fans,
> Similarly, EMI is not good for Shirley. Remember, there has already been
> a Cass Pang and a Ng Wing May (Christina Ng) in EMI. I don't think EMI
> would give Shirley full support.
> 
> Frederick Au

Oh!  People please help me!  Where should Shirley go if not one single 
record company is suitable for her ?!

:(

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:21:59 +1000 (GMT+1000)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: s312205@student.uq.edu.au (Coffee)
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

>Dear shirley's fans,
>	Today's Apple Daily said that "fei tao"want Shirley to join them.In
>fact,I don't like "fei tao".I think "fei tao"can't let Shirley to be the
>top one.However,I will support Shirley's choice!:-)
>
>William Lau
>

How about Rock record ???? 

Coffee 
e'XquiSite

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 09:44:43 -0500
From: Brent Bowman 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Go East
	 Nov 6, 96 04:51:24 am <199611061833.NAA11526@theseus.tor.hookup.net>

Can anyone tell me some of the big stars that are on the
 Go East label?  I'm not familiar with the name.

---- Brent

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From: Tam Ignatius 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:27:07 +0800 (HKT)

I think you guys are missing the other side of the story.

Surely Fitto is SERIOUSLY thinking of signing Shirley after announcing
an offer for Tse Ting Fung (son of Tse Yin) for a contract of 20mil.
Meanwhile after Cheung Kin Ting left the new admin is restructuring
(not mentioned in the report) and even changed the logo to build up
a new image in the next few months.  Shirley is recognized as
" O q  " for her special  \ so it natural for the new
refreshed Fitto to sign her.

All previous Fitto contract singers like Veronica Yip are not
with Fitto anymore.

Be warned that the report only said how Fitto thought of
and no word from Shirley (of course) so don't be misled that Shirley
is heading for Fitto.

Personally would like Shirley head for Go East since she at least
sung a few songs with Tat and Ming.

For the Polygram 88 thing, i'm quite surprised that you can't hear
the difference.  I use my discman and crank up the volume the sound
field is wider (especially the older songs) and crisper.  It's
much obvious when hear from a good HiFi.  If you only have a portable,
then i can't help you.  No surround is needed, and don't even try,
surround will just bury things up.

What is your Discman anyway?  Sony Discmans sounds crappy from day one.

well, you already know what songs are in the album, there's no
new songs (so i didn't buy Pricilla's since i already have most
of her albums).

-iGnatius

> 
> Pak-kwan Fredredick Au wrote:
> > 
> > Dear Shirley's fans,
> > Personally I dislike Fei tao. U see the sorry situation of Chris Wong
> > (Wong Hoi Kan) and Joyce Lee (Lee Lok Sze), I don't think it would do
> > any good for Shirley to join fei tao. Comparatively speaking, Go East or
> > BMG seem to be much better!
> > Frederick Au
> 
> Yeah, but does anyone really know where Shirley's heading?  I mean, it's 
> been quite a while.  I don't like Fitto too!  Actually, I think Rock 
> Records would be somewhat appropriate for her.
> 
> Oh, by the way, I just bought Shirley's 
> Polygram-88-whatever-compilation.  I can't hear any difference in terms 
> of quality through my earphones.  Or maybe I should try some surround 
> sound, eh?
> 
> Jo Jo
> -- 
> * My Secret Garden *
> 
> 

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From: sac42301@saclink.csus.edu
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:37:15 +0000
Subject: Re: Go East

I only know a few main singers in GO EAST, they are...
Kelly Chan Wai-Lam
Daniel Chan Hiu-Tung 
(Just join GO EAST) Julian Cheung Chi-Lam
Sorry, can't help you out much!!!

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:35:27 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

At 11:27 PM +0800 11/6/96, Tam Ignatius wrote:

>Personally would like Shirley head for Go East since she at least
>sung a few songs with Tat and Ming.

I too think that the best company for her is Go East. It still have the
marketing clout of PolyGram, and it appears to be less conservative than
the mother company. Besides, I think it's only natural for her to work with
Lau Yee Tat and Anthony Wong.

Related question: Anybody knows who producer Joseph Ip works with besides
Shirley? Does he work with anybody in GoEast, Cinepoly or Musician?

Keith


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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:21:47 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

 The quality of the 88 compilation is really much better, no kidding.
Maybe you should try it on a Hi-Fi system.

Bonnie (L.A.)

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Jo Jo wrote:

> Pak-kwan Fredredick Au wrote:
> >
> > Dear Shirley's fans,
> > Personally I dislike Fei tao. U see the sorry situation of Chris Wong
> > (Wong Hoi Kan) and Joyce Lee (Lee Lok Sze), I don't think it would do
> > any good for Shirley to join fei tao. Comparatively speaking, Go East or
> > BMG seem to be much better!
> > Frederick Au
>
> Yeah, but does anyone really know where Shirley's heading?  I mean, it's
> been quite a while.  I don't like Fitto too!  Actually, I think Rock
> Records would be somewhat appropriate for her.
>
> Oh, by the way, I just bought Shirley's
> Polygram-88-whatever-compilation.  I can't hear any difference in terms
> of quality through my earphones.  Or maybe I should try some surround
> sound, eh?
>
> Jo Jo
> --
> * My Secret Garden *
>
>

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:23:55 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Yip Yuk Hing's nickname is Veronica?!  Beats me!

Bonnie (L.A.)

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Brent Bowman wrote:

> ...stuff deleted...
>
> > > You said Veronica Yip, I even don't know who's she... maybe I know her
> > > chinese name anyway.  I know a singer called "Leung Ngan Ling" also
> > > under "Fitto," but she's disappeared now... for some years, and "Fitto"
> > > is disappeared for years... haaa.  At least I nearly forget this
> > > company.  Don't worry, Shirley will have her right choice!!
> >
> > How could you not know Veronica Yip?  It's [Yip Yuk Hing]!!
>
> If anyone is interested in seeing a picture of Veronica Yip Yuk Hing,
> I have a picture of her on my homepage.
>
> http://soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~gundam/
>
> (I still have plenty of work to do on my page, and I'm not totally
> ready to release it to the public, but anyone that wants a preview
> of it can check it out.)
>
> ---- Brent
>

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:25:46 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

You can't hear the difference through a CD player, you guys have to try it
on a Hi-Fi system or some equivalent. (not on boombox neither).

Bonnie

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Pak-kwan Fredredick Au wrote:

> RE: Shirley should join Rock REcords?
> I don't think so, Rock has Sandy Lam, So Wai Lun etc., and it is quite
> clear that Rock is investing a lot on Sandy Lam (although her albums are
> not so best-selling now, consider how much Rock has invested in her last
> album "Perfect Sensation"!) , so it's not good for Shirley to join Rock.
>
> > Oh, by the way, I just bought Shirley's
> > Polygram-88-whatever-compilation.  I can't hear any difference in terms
> > of quality through my earphones.
> Me too, I can't recognize any special sound effect from my Sony CD
> Player. I personally am not very happy with this album, the songs are
> much similar with her "Live Concert" albums! And I really like "Holy
> Mary" (with Wong Yiu Ming) and "Love Me Now", but both are not included
> in her "88" album -- I am a bit disappointed!
>
> Frederick
> >
> > Jo Jo
> > --
> > * My Secret Garden *
>

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:26:55 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

I like Sandy Lam pretty much.  She is a very professional singer, and she
really can sing.

Bonnie

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Pak-kwan Fredredick Au wrote:

> RE: Shirley should join Rock REcords?
> I don't think so, Rock has Sandy Lam, So Wai Lun etc., and it is quite
> clear that Rock is investing a lot on Sandy Lam (although her albums are
> not so best-selling now, consider how much Rock has invested in her last
> album "Perfect Sensation"!) , so it's not good for Shirley to join Rock.
>
> > Oh, by the way, I just bought Shirley's
> > Polygram-88-whatever-compilation.  I can't hear any difference in terms
> > of quality through my earphones.
> Me too, I can't recognize any special sound effect from my Sony CD
> Player. I personally am not very happy with this album, the songs are
> much similar with her "Live Concert" albums! And I really like "Holy
> Mary" (with Wong Yiu Ming) and "Love Me Now", but both are not included
> in her "88" album -- I am a bit disappointed!
>
> Frederick
> >
> > Jo Jo
> > --
> > * My Secret Garden *
>

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:54:35 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: Go East

At 9:44 AM -0500 11/6/96, Brent Bowman wrote:
>Can anyone tell me some of the big stars that are on the
> Go East label?  I'm not familiar with the name.

I'm pretty sure that this list isn't complete, but here is what I know:
Anthony Wong, Kelly Chen, Daniel Chan, Ray Chan and the other girl with
whom the three did the album "Open the Skies" with.

GoEast is yet another spin-off of PolyGram (HK) Ltd.

Keith


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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 15:04:43 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna/kar on 
Subject: Re: Go East

Dear Brent,
Go East is a new recoed company in HK. ASMOF, it is sort of a subsidary
company of Polygram. Currently, there is three "polygrams" in HK, namely:
Polygram, Cinepoly and Go East. I do not know how exactly the system works
but Go East is getting more & more successful. In a sense I think it is
going to surpass PolyGram soon. The hottest singer at Go East now is a young
female just graduated from US a yr ago. Her name is Kelly Chan Wai Lam
(zY). Do you know of her? She graduated from a U at NY a yr ago. Her
boyfrriend is studying at RISD (rhode island school of design) here in the
States now. It is said that he is tall & handsome... Another group under Go
East is Dat Ming Yat Pie (F@£),  correct me if I am wrong: I think a
very bad looking jerk called Chan Yat Shun is under Go East, too.

I think shirley is much better off w/ Go East, too! because it is new, it
accept new ideas (i.e. less conservative). The image of which is young and
chic (style of Shirley). It is willing to invest
on its artists. And most important of all, if Shirley goes there, she will
be the #1 female singer there, unlike polygram... I do not think Shirley
gets the respect she deserves under poly. 

on on

>Can anyone tell me some of the big stars that are on the
> Go East label?  I'm not familiar with the name.
>
>---- Brent
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 15:15:53 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna/kar on 
Subject: Re: Go East

At 02:54 PM 11/6/96 -0500, Keith wrote:
>At 9:44 AM -0500 11/6/96, Brent Bowman wrote:
>>Can anyone tell me some of the big stars that are on the
>> Go East label?  I'm not familiar with the name.
>
>I'm pretty sure that this list isn't complete, but here is what I know:
>Anthony Wong, Kelly Chen, Daniel Chan, Ray Chan and the other girl with
>whom the three did the album "Open the Skies" with.
>
>GoEast is yet another spin-off of PolyGram (HK) Ltd.

Which one Daniel/Ray is FH The one in the vitasoy ad? The other one is
a jerk. The other girl under the "Open the Skies" is actually under polygram
instead of go east. Her name is Joyce Yau and she is no longer in the
business. She is working in an investment bank now. The record was "just for
fun", according to herself. She graduated from Brown University last May ^_^
 on on
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 15:34:02 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna/kar on 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

At 01:35 PM 11/6/96 -0500, keith wrote:
>I too think that the best company for her is Go East. It still have the
>marketing clout of PolyGram, and it appears to be less conservative than
>the mother company. Besides, I think it's only natural for her to work with
>Lau Yee Tat and Anthony Wong.
>Related question: Anybody knows who producer Joseph Ip works with besides
>Shirley? Does he work with anybody in GoEast, Cinepoly or Musician?

Is Joseph Ip the long time partner of Shirley? Is his name
 (йsv)? I don't really know, but do you think Tong Bo Yue (_p^copy
Shirley's style in her recent album? Esp. the way she sang. In the song "We
don't have a present" (p) Slide note "|N" in the second last
sentence in the last q ? Do you think her producer cld be Joseph Yip?

on on
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:14:32 -0600 (CST)
From: Saint FiftynineR 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Fitto?? What??

Well... Fitto really surprised me when they made Chiu Hok Yee's "Every 2
seconds" and Joyce Lee's "I love to be loved" last year. They were so fine
in every aspect. Well recorded, well produced, and they both have a good
looking cover. It was a big jump from those Veronica Yip, Leung Ngan
Ling... early fitto crappy things. However, I still don't think they are
capable of keeping such a top quality singer like Shirley. An album of
that quality is actually a must for her. So what exactly is the 20 million
deal for her with Fitto? Do you know? 

So what about Go East? Are there any producers other than Lui Chung Tak?
This guy is okay. He makes some excellent songs occassionally. 

Gilbert

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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:28:11 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Yep, Joseph Ip has been the producer of Shirley's albums for a very long
time, I think they are good buddies, too.

Actually, the only think I'm concerned about the new company is whether
the new people will let Shirley has her own way and style.  Hopefully,
whoever the new people are, they will not try to change her into another
image or something.

Bonnie

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, on on/anna/kar on wrote:

> At 01:35 PM 11/6/96 -0500, keith wrote:
> >I too think that the best company for her is Go East. It still have the
> >marketing clout of PolyGram, and it appears to be less conservative than
> >the mother company. Besides, I think it's only natural for her to work with
> >Lau Yee Tat and Anthony Wong.
> >Related question: Anybody knows who producer Joseph Ip works with besides
> >Shirley? Does he work with anybody in GoEast, Cinepoly or Musician?
>
> Is Joseph Ip the long time partner of Shirley? Is his name
>  (sv)? I don't really know, but do you think Tong Bo Yue (_p^copy
> Shirley's style in her recent album? Esp. the way she sang. In the song "We
> don't have a present" (ڭ̪p) Slide note "|N" in the second last
> sentence in the last ƺq ? Do you think her producer cld be Joseph Yip?
>
> on on
> Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\
> you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \
> Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \
> someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _
> Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
> 			        U_U
> 	^_^	            |  I>o 		           /|    |    |\
> 		          / |    |    | \
> 		          \ \___/ \___/ />>>>>>>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:16:15 +0800 (HKT)
From: Tong Lai Yin 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Development in other markets

All,
	And I think joining "Fei Tao" will hinder her development as an 
international singer in other markets like Tai Wan and Singapore.Rock on 
the other had is more mature and experienced with this.We don't want her 
to confine in HK,do we?We want her to be an international star,with 
people from all over the world admiring her.Remember her first Mandarian 
Album?It had got preety good sales!(Three plantinum?)In taiwan,the no. is 
already very good for a new comer.(Faye's first Mandarian album sold more 
or less the same no.! )She can do that!

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 00:58:32 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Alex W Chan 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

At 08:00 PM 11/6/96 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>Jo Jo wrote:
>> 
>> > What other performers are with "fei tao"?
>> >
>> > --- Brent
>> 
>> Well, the other performers are so crappy that i don't even remember.
>> 
>> Jo Jo
>> --
>> * My Secret Garden *
>
>	Sure Shirley will be the number ONE singer of "Fitto" if she really
>joined "Fitto," but the main concern is... "Fitto" is a not famous
>record company, don't know whether they can produce good song for
>Shirley.
>
>Jaffe.
>
>the `E Theatre
>http://home.netvigator.com/~ysling/shirley
>
>Hi guys,
I'm afraid all of you guys will not support Shirley to join Fitto.  IT IS
DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!  FITTO MEANS FATAL.......SURELY DEAD!!!!!!
I think Shirley is smart enought to choose!  Don't worry!
Alex

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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:46:40 +0000
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Nicholas 
Subject: a 'question'?

Mmm, hi people...  this question is not directly related to Shirley but i
thought i'd ask it anyway:

Can you name a few good Chinese female lyricist?

I don't know if it's just me, but looking into my CD collection, i see only
a few female (Chinese) lyricists.  Why is that?  Why is it always men who
has dominated in this field - surely women can express their views through
music as well as men; the question is, how come they are not as
'successful' or should i say, not as famous as those male lyrists?

I want to hear what women have to say, and not just a soundboard of someone
else's ideas...  am i asking too much here?  I mean, yes, i understand that
in HK, if one wants to survive in the scene, one must has the look/style,
the right promotion/manager, and a bit of talent/luck.  It's not easy, but
hey, i want to hear about the ideas, i want to see your soul, and i do not
want your sex.  I think everyone has the freedom to be creative right?  Use
that freedom!  To me, i think the context is more important and a singer
should use it to touch her listener, to share ideas with them...  after
all, i think music is something more than entertainment, it is about
communication as well.  It's okay to listen to some 'trash' pop sometimes
but they never lasted long, and the problem is, the market is full of it.

I think Shirley should choose a company that will promise her a freedom to
creat and to support her; and not just use her as the 'goose that lays
golden eggs'.  Meanwhile, i'll just sit back and be as supportive as a fan
can be... and wait.

BTW, Jojo?  if u'r reading this, please could you not categorize people the
way you did?  You labelled "Veronica Yip the stripper"; being called a
stripper is somewhat negative and degrading.  In fact, she is no stripper,
it was barely a phase for her, a career move, and a wise (IMHO) one too.
She does has some talent, just take a look in the film Red rose, White
rose.  And no, i ain't a fan of her but i do despise the way you used it as
a negative point to 'prove' Fitto is no good for Shirley - well, that was
your point wasn't it?

Personally, i feel it's okay for fans to discuss about the business side of
the entertainer, but surely this has no effect in real life...  i mean,
surely Shirley ain't gonna read this and think "geee, she's right, F
company is no good for me and i'd better not have anything to do with it...
let me go and sign the contract with G company!".  I found this kind of
discussion is rather pointless...

... and i think i'd better shut up and go before i'm stoned to death...

(this message is kinda messy and i don't really have a point...  just a few
thoughts that i'd like to spill in public...)

"If you don't live what you sing about, your mirror is going to find out!"
(quoted from ??)




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From: Tam Ignatius 
Subject: Re: a 'question'?
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:11:55 +0800 (HKT)

Hey Nick, you're too tough on them... :)

There's no reason that a female lyricist should have a good look/style.
Whether this is political or managerial or just that few girls write good
lyrics is left unknown, but the fact is that there's domination of only a
few lyricists. Or even that, there's not enough lyricists for this market
and it seems record companies don't give a push and conservatively choose
those who can sell.

> all, i think music is something more than entertainment, it is about
> communication as well.  It's okay to listen to some 'trash' pop sometimes
> but they never lasted long, and the problem is, the market is full of it.

Record companies need the little girls to spend, that's why they're
there.

> I think Shirley should choose a company that will promise her a freedom to
> creat and to support her; and not just use her as the 'goose that lays
> golden eggs'.  Meanwhile, i'll just sit back and be as supportive as a fan
> can be... and wait.

that's why Go East is a good choice, it's new, energetic and open.  See
Tat Ming, Kelly Chan, the albums are good enough to buy.

Rock? Man, see how Sandy does (Nick.. ^_*).  And Mok Man Wai, she barely
escaped the nude poster/album cover crisis only because her album got
excellent reviews.  Bad decision?  I think it's bad.  Mok's already an
in enough artist and there's no point to sell music to that "gig" level,
especially when the album is being reviewed as a good Alternative.

> BTW, Jojo?  if u'r reading this, please could you not categorize people the
> way you did?  You labelled "Veronica Yip the stripper"; being called a

I agree with you.

> Personally, i feel it's okay for fans to discuss about the business side of
> the entertainer, but surely this has no effect in real life...  i mean,
> surely Shirley ain't gonna read this and think "geee, she's right, F
> company is no good for me and i'd better not have anything to do with it...
> let me go and sign the contract with G company!".  I found this kind of
> discussion is rather pointless...

Hey, what IF she reads this?

This is what this mailing list does, any discussion about Shirley Kwan,
right?  It's natural for fans concern which record company would affect
the singer's choice of music and business decisions (they have to eat
and live like you and me, right?) and such discussions should (somehow
maybe) gives the singer a signal what the fans think.

-iGnatius
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From: sac42301@saclink.csus.edu
Comments: Authenticated sender is 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:51:50 +0000
Subject: Shirley's Albums

Hello Shirley's fan,
     This is Maggie, and  I'm a new fan of Shirley.  Can't somebody 
tell me which is her best album?  When is it published?

                                            Thank you all,      
                                                Maggie 

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From: sac42301@saclink.csus.edu
	(1.40.112.6/16.2) id AA132344829; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:00:29 -0800
Comments: Authenticated sender is 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:01:28 +0000
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

> Hello Shirley's fan,
>      This is Maggie, and  I'm a new fan of Shirley.  Can't somebody 
> tell me which is her best album?  When is it published?
> 
>                                             Thank you all,      
>                                                 Maggie 
> 

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 16:12:55 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Go East

> correct me if I am wrong: I think a
> very bad looking jerk called Chan Yat Shun is under Go East, too.

who do you mean?  Do you mean Eason Chan Yik Shun??  He's under Wah-Sing 
Records!

Jo JO
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 16:16:24 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

> FITTO MEANS FATAL
> Alex

Oh God, that's a good one!

Jo JO
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 16:31:24 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: a 'question'?

Hey, Nicolas, you Tori Amos fan (I am too):
 
> Can you name a few good Chinese female lyricist?

No, but my favorite male lyricist is Lin Xi, Lam Man Chung, and Wong Tsim.

> BTW, Jojo?  if u'r reading this, please could you not categorize people the
> way you did?  You labelled "Veronica Yip the stripper"; being called a
> stripper is somewhat negative and degrading.  In fact, she is no stripper,
> it was barely a phase for her, a career move, and a wise (IMHO) one too.
> She does has some talent, just take a look in the film Red rose, White
> rose.  And no, i ain't a fan of her but i do despise the way you used it as
> a negative point to 'prove' Fitto is no good for Shirley - well, that was
> your point wasn't it?

She stripped, did she not?  Well, not on stage or clubs, but in movies.  And is that 
what "freedom of speech" is all about?  Why would you think being called a "stripper" 
is demeaning?  Are you looking down on this occupation?  Well, personally I don't 
dislike her or anything but it's just to make sure you know who I'm talking about.  I 
didn't say that she has no talents either.  But she chose to strip and that's her 
choice.

> Personally, i feel it's okay for fans to discuss about the business side of
> the entertainer, but surely this has no effect in real life...  i mean,
> surely Shirley ain't gonna read this and think "geee, she's right, F
> company is no good for me and i'd better not have anything to do with it...
> let me go and sign the contract with G company!".  I found this kind of
> discussion is rather pointless...

It doesn't matter if Shirley reads it or not.  The whole point of this mailing list 
is not to have a point, and that's why it's pointless.  Not just the topic about 
where Shirley's heading, but anything we discussed and opinions we gave seem to be 
unproductive for Shirley either.  So what?  We care about her so we talk about her, 
that's what it is.  We're just expressing what we think.  Too bad you think it's 
pointless.  I guess it's pointless for you to reply if you think you're replying to 
some pointless discussion.

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:41:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Phan Ngoc Dung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: a 'question'?

regarding nicholas ? on why the industry does not have female lyricists.

there are also even less music composers probably.  i think women  who 
sing should become more involved with their albums. help produce it, 
write a song or two..or the lyrics. it is a start when you not only 
sing,  but make the music as well. i recently bought a faye wong cd and 
found out how she composes and writes as well. her previous albums have 
shown similar compositions. i respect her a little more because of that. 
it shows her dedication for music. i wish other singers would do the same.

i'm not putting down shirley nor siding with f. wong.just interested in 
the way singers are themselves. if one can sing, surely they can feel 
their way into writing. am i assuming too much?

anyways,

whatever  e' does, please remember your future? for now, release your 
album so awareness for your talent is noticed. good luck.


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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 16:46:28 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: a 'question'?

Nicholas wrote:
> 
> Can you name a few good Chinese female lyricist?

I know that Cass Phang loves Lee Man and Cheung Mei Yin, but I think 
they are crappy.  Their lyrics aren't intelligent and they're too 
commercialized.

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:29:04 -0800
From: Cathain Cheung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: "fei tao"want Shirley to join them

Alex W Chan wrote:
> 
> At 08:00 PM 11/6/96 +0800, you wrote:
> >Hi there,
> >
> >Jo Jo wrote:
> >>
> >> > What other performers are with "fei tao"?
> >> >
> >> > --- Brent
> >>
> >> Well, the other performers are so crappy that i don't even remember.
> >>
> >> Jo Jo
> >> --
> >> * My Secret Garden *
> >
> >       Sure Shirley will be the number ONE singer of "Fitto" if she really
> >joined "Fitto," but the main concern is... "Fitto" is a not famous
> >record company, don't know whether they can produce good song for
> >Shirley.
> >
> >Jaffe.
> >
> >the `E Theatre
> >http://home.netvigator.com/~ysling/shirley
> >
> >Hi guys,
> I'm afraid all of you guys will not support Shirley to join Fitto.  IT IS
> DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!  FITTO MEANS FATAL.......SURELY DEAD!!!!!!
> I think Shirley is smart enought to choose!  Don't worry!
> Alex

Hi guys!
I'm Catcat whom from Hong Kong.  Yes, I wonder how's all of you got the 
news about Shirley so fast!!!!!!  I just can't believe that Fitto invites 
Shirley joins it's company...Oh, My God!!  Are there any guys remember 
who is Chris Wong still?  After he joined that company he was walked to 
die!  So, I don't think Shirley will join this "shit",oh, sorry!  I don't 
how to explain this company in correct.  Otherwise, I really want Shirley 
can join "Rock" or "Go East"- the company's artists are include of Kelly, 
Anthony Wong, FF......etc.  Can all of your guys give me any comments?
Nice to meet all of you!!!Bye!!  Take Care!!!!

From:Cathian Cheung
catcat@netvigator.com

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 02:33:51 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Alex W Chan 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

At 05:01 PM 11/7/96 +0000, you wrote:
>> Hello Shirley's fan,
>>      This is Maggie, and  I'm a new fan of Shirley.  Can't somebody 
>> tell me which is her best album?  When is it published?
>> 
>>                                             Thank you all,      
>>                                                 Maggie 
>> Hi Maggie,
        Welcome to the e's family.  Personally speaking, I really like
Shirley's Concert Live which was relased at the end of 1995.  You should
have these double CDs as a collection.  It's the best because you can really
enjoy e's live performance and listen to her cue talks.  The recently
released Shirley--Poly88 is a good choice for fans only.  This is one of the
strategy of Polygram ;or it is even every company's policy to released an
album for an artist when he/she is facing the contract renewal problem.  By
adding a litte bit special effects(or re-mix)to the album, the company can
get more (or even last) revenue from the artist.  If you are not Shirley's
Big Fans like us, please don't border to buy this kind of "the best" album!
        By the way, I think Shirley will not go to Go East because it's the
sister company of Polygram.  Just take a look how Go East spent money in
promoting Kelly Chan.....The 2nd Faye Wong.  Does anyone here still remember
how Cinepoly(another sister company of Polygram) treat Faye Wong conpared to
that of Shirley!  It wasn't fair at all!!!!!!  So it makes no sense that Go
East will take Shirley to compete with it's Ace, Kelly Chan.
        Both Marlboro and Rock Records wiil be a good choice for Shirley as
these companies have a much stronger financial background than that of the
others.  She should be able to get a better chance to have more freedom and
flexibility in exploring her talents.
        Last but not lease, every will agree that "It's Fatal to go to Fitto!"
Alex^o^
>
>

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Date: 	Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:55:32 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

+To Maggie:
+   All album of Shirley's are the best. You should buy all of her CD and 
+   listen. You will find Shirley has a unbelieveable amazing voice. If
+   you haven't buy and CD of Shirley, I would recommdend the '88 
+   Collection' and 'The Way'. These are the best of her best albums.
+
+ 							Tom

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996 sac42301@saclink.csus.edu wrote:

> Hello Shirley's fan,
>      This is Maggie, and  I'm a new fan of Shirley.  Can't somebody 
> tell me which is her best album?  When is it published?
> 
>                                             Thank you all,      
>                                                 Maggie 
> 

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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 17:20:22 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Shirley's concert

I'm sorry if I'm a little late talking about this.  But I missed Shirley's concert 
in June '95.  I really regret that but it wasn't my fault, cuz at the time I was 
having final exams in Canada.  Can anyone tell me details about it?  How many 
people went?  How was the atmosphere?  It's too bad she only had 4 shows, I heard. 
Of course I can always watch the concert on LD, but I just wanna know what you 
guys think.

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 12:29:08 +0800
From: William Lau 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's concert

Dear Jo JO,
	Shirley's concert was great!!At that moment,I had final exam,too.So,I
only saw her first concert.I remamber that day,I had exam at morning and
to sew her concert at night!That day was Friday.
	I think her concert is the best concert which I had saw.Shirley did her
best in the concert.Every fan call her name loudly when concert
start.She was very beautiful in the concert.She had a little mistake in
the first concert.She forgot how to dance in a part.(I forget which
part)When she forgot how to dance,she go away!About one minute,she went
back to the stage and said:I just going to toilet!She is funny!
	Are you know she had a mini concert called"Shirley kwan new year
concert"?It was great,too!!

William Lau

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 00:23:32 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna/kar on 
Subject: Re: Shirley's concert

Jo Jo,
How are you? It is too bad that you have missed Shirley's concert. It was so
fantastic. I went to the last one. It was nearly flawless. During the encore
session, she came out so many times, I heard even the secure that it was so
rare... we had extra songs: "nai duck yau ching yin" once again and "dong
sai kai mo mui gwua" (when there is no more rose in the world..." She cried
big time. 
love, on on
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 16:16:18 +0800
From: Benjamin Chiu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's concert

Jo Jo wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry if I'm a little late talking about this.  But I missed Shirley's concert
> in June '95.  I really regret that but it wasn't my fault, cuz at the time I was
> having final exams in Canada.  Can anyone tell me details about it?  How many
> people went?  How was the atmosphere?  It's too bad she only had 4 shows, I heard.
> Of course I can always watch the concert on LD, but I just wanna know what you
> guys think.
> 
> Jo Jo
> --
> * My Secret Garden *
	It is a bad news for you to miss Shirley Kwan's concert. It is the
greatest concert I had never seen before. What ever music, background
and the lights in the concert is very good.
	I was saw the second one, I remeber it is saturaday. In fact, I wanted
to see the fourth one (the last day of concert). However, the thickets
were sold out. It is too bad for me. However, I still saw her concert.
It is great.
	I think you should rent (or loan) a LD to see it. I think you will love
her more than before after you had saw the concert.

BenJamIn Chiu

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Date: 9 Nov 1996 16:40:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Shirley went to Mexico!!

Hello,

       Does anybody have SHirley's Japanese CD in 1990?  I am looking
for a song that's in English on that CD but I am not sure which one it
is.  It has the word illumination in the song.

Thanks
Derek

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From: Tam Ignatius 
Subject: Re: "illumination"
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:05:35 +0800 (HKT)

"Illumination to my heart"?
Not sure if this is the name, but it's the chorus part.
Have to check when i got home.

-iGnatius
> 
> Hello,
> 
>        Does anybody have SHirley's Japanese CD in 1990?  I am looking
> for a song that's in English on that CD but I am not sure which one it
> is.  It has the word illumination in the song.
> 
> Thanks
> Derek
> 

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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 14:15:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Subject: Shirley's '90 Japanese album...
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: sjl@vcn.bc.ca

Dear Derek:
 
You wanted to know about the English songs on Shirley's Japanese album...
There IS  a song that has the words "illumination"on it:track 9--but I 
can't translate the title!!Maybe someone else could bring some light into 
that !!But the chorus of this song goes:
"Illumination in my heart(X2)
I've never told him 'I love u'
U've never told him too
Illumination in my heart(X2)
It's like a ring of 3 colour gold
A love we must hold from the start
Illumination in my heart..."...And there u go!!!Hope that was helpful!!!!
BTW, the album is act.,pretty good--I especially like track 
4("Moonlight"),although I don't know what the heck she's 
singing!!!And,half the album (act.,more than half)is in English--Alright!....
..Best Wishes, Sara L.   ;)

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Date: 9 Nov 1996 22:26:00 EDT
Subject: Shirley's '90 Japanese album...

Hello Sarah,

       Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.  Can you
describe the cover or the title of that CD for me?  later
!
;)

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:47:31 +0800
From: William Lau 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's '90 Japanese album...

Hi Derek,
	If you want to see the cover of that CD,going to:
http://www.hoopup.net/~khui/shirley/albums/j03/j03.html

	This album is very good.I like it!!

William Lau

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:07:10 +0800
From: William Lau 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's '90 Japanese album...

Hi Derek,
         Sorry,the correct location is:
 http://www.hookup.net/~khui/shirley/albums/j03/j03.html
 
         
 
William Lau

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Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 22:43:27 -0800
From: Cathain Cheung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley went to Mexico!!

Cathain Cheung wrote:
> 
> Hi, all of Shirley's fans,
> 
> I am Cathian whom from Hong Kong.  Apple daily news wrote that Shirley has gone to
> Mexico yesterday!!  She became to be one of actress in Wong Ka Wai's movie!!  In this
> movie, she acts to Tony Leung (Leung Chu Wai)'s wife.  Most of the artists are jealous
> of Shirley so much!!  You know, all of these artists are most want to be one of a
> character in Wong's movie.  No one can imagine of Wong decides to choose Shirley to be
> the actress, because Wong has contected with Anita Yuen, Michelle Lee, or even of Faye
> Wong at that before.  I felt so excite and happy!!  Shirley can upgrade her career
> after she acted that movie!(I think she will!!)  This is a very cool and fun movie,
> Tony and Lesile are lover but Tony was married - and his wife is Shirley.  So...How's
> of feeling for both of you? Feedback!! Bye!!!
> 
> From: catcat@netvigator.com with love.Cathain Cheung wrote:
> 
> Hi, all of Shirley's fans,
> 
> I am Cathian whom from Hong Kong.  Apple daily news wrote that Shirley has gone to
> Mexico yesterday!!  She became to be one of actress in Wong Ka Wai's movie!!  In this
> movie, she acts to Tony Leung (Leung Chu Wai)'s wife.  Most of the artists are jealous
> of Shirley so much!!  You know, all of these artists are most want to be one of a
> character in Wong's movie.  No one can imagine of Wong decides to choose Shirley to be
> the actress, because Wong has contected with Anita Yuen, Michelle Lee, or even of Faye
> Wong at that before.  I felt so excite and happy!!  Shirley can upgrade her career
> after she acted that movie!(I think she will!!)  This is a very cool and fun movie,
> Tony and Lesile are lover but Tony was married - and his wife is Shirley.  So...How's
> of feeling for both of you? Feedback!! Bye!!!
> 
> From: catcat@netvigator.com with love.

Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 19:12:05 -0800
From: Cathain Cheung 
To: "http://www.shirley-list"@hookup.net
Subject: Shirley went to Mexico!!

Hi, all of Shirley's fans,

I am Cathian whom from Hong Kong.  Apple daily news wrote that Shirley has gone to 
Mexico yesterday!!  She became to be one of actress in Wong Ka Wai's movie!!  In this 
movie, she acts to Tony Leung (Leung Chu Wai)'s wife.  Most of the artists are jealous 
of Shirley so much!!  You know, all of these artists are most want to be one of a 
character in Wong's movie.  No one can imagine of Wong decides to choose Shirley to be 
the actress, because Wong has contected with Anita Yuen, Michelle Lee, or even of Faye 
Wong at that before.  I felt so excite and happy!!  Shirley can upgrade her career 
after she acted that movie!(I think she will!!)  This is a very cool and fun movie, 
Tony and Lesile are lover but Tony was married - and his wife is Shirley.  So...How's 
of feeling for both of you? Feedback!! Bye!!!

From: catcat@netvigator.com with love.

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:45:45 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Go East

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, on on/anna/kar on wrote:

> company of Polygram. Currently, there is three "polygrams" in HK, namely:
> Polygram, Cinepoly and Go East. I do not know how exactly the system works

Maybe I can give some info here.

Apart from Polygram (HK) mother company, there are three subsidiaries of
it:  Cinepoly, GoEast and Musician.

Musician was established in the 1st Q of 96. Singers under this lable are
Lau Yee Tat and a female singer called Woo Pui Wai. Shirley's song Cuddle
28800bps was included in a Tat Lau album released half a year ago, namely
Insensibilities. 

[LMK :P]

 < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL:lmk@moon.csc.cuhk.edu.hk >


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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:22:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Subject: Japanese Album...
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: sjl@vcn.bc.ca

Hey Derek:
No prob,u're welcome--I see some one has answered your question ( in regards 
to the cover and name) already,but since I'm online,I'll tell u anyways:
*Name*:"Borderless" (1990--I think the label is "Apollon"..)
*Cover*?Incase U haven't checked the site for the pic yet:It's a beigey 
marbly colour --there's a square  in the middle with Shirley garbed in a hat,
long skirt and sandals-the scenery in the square is some desert-like landscape
with a few sprouts of grass(all in a deep cream colour). And at the 
bottom,there's Shirley's 'Cat logo' in pink....Oh--and it cost me around 
HK$200 or so .... Hope that's detailed enuf---Alright!
Catcha Later...   Sara L.  ;)
Ps To all Shirley Fans:So,now that we know where Shirley is,anybody 
willing to hop on a plane to raid the set in Mexico??!Just Kidding!!
Does anyone know when the approximate date of the film's release onto the 
bigscreen??

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:19:05 -0600 (CST)
From: Saint FiftynineR 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Dream

Hey,

	Sorry for an unrelated question... Is Woo Pui Wai the pretty girl
with the nick "Dream" in the Lau Yee Tat Album some years ago? She sings
pretty well in the Tat Ming Tribute alnum :) 

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:35:36 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on / anna /kar on 
Subject: Re: Shirley went to Mexico!!

At 10:43 PM 11/9/96 -0800, Cathain Cheung Catcat wrote:
>Hi, all of Shirley's fans,
>I am Cathian whom from Hong Kong.  Apple daily news wrote that Shirley has
gone to 
>Mexico yesterday!!  She became to be one of actress in Wong Ka Wai's
movie!!  In this 
>movie, she acts to Tony Leung (Leung Chu Wai)'s wife.  

I am so happy for Shirley. She got it. This is so cool. Wong Ka Wai is
artistic. Shirley under him must be chic and it can no doubtedly increase
her prestige worldwide. May be she wld go to the Rock record company after
talking to Leslie Cheung :p But Leslie did not do really well under Rock
either... his first ablum "Beloved and Spoiled" (Chung Ai) was not exactly a
disaster but not good, Golden Branch Jade Leave two (Kim Chi Yuk Yip 2) did
not bring him up much either... 

Does anyone of you know when this film is going to be out? I hope it will be
during Christmas because I will be able to see it (I'll be in HK). 

on on
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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From: sac42301@saclink.csus.edu
Comments: Authenticated sender is 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:22:21 +0000
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I don't get it.  What makes Kelly Chan so popular?  Personally, I don't
> think she is that pretty or cool; and she definitely CAN'T sing.
> 
> Bonnie
************************************************************
Dear Bonnie,
        I think why Kelly is so popular because because she has 
Faye's taste and look like Bridgette Lam Ching-Ha.
        Beside, not a lot of singer made good achievements like her 
on their first year in HK showbiz.  I think she can't sings well too, 
but to compare with popular singers today when they first came in, 
Kelly did a good job so far.
                                                           Maggie 
 

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From: sac42301@saclink.csus.edu
Comments: Authenticated sender is 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:23:40 +0000
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

Bonnie  wrote:
> Which is her best album?  Wow, this is hard to say.  I'd say "Maze at
> Night" and "My Way" are both the best.  But her other albums are good,
> too!
> 
> Bonnie (L.A.)

Maggie wrote:
  Thank you Bonnie, I will try to get those two albums from Shirley.

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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:48:18 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

Which is her best album?  Wow, this is hard to say.  I'd say "Maze at
Night" and "My Way" are both the best.  But her other albums are good,
too!

Bonnie (L.A.)

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996 sac42301@saclink.csus.edu wrote:

> Hello Shirley's fan,
>      This is Maggie, and  I'm a new fan of Shirley.  Can't somebody
> tell me which is her best album?  When is it published?
>
>                                             Thank you all,
>                                                 Maggie
>

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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 09:53:00 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

Hi everyone,

I don't get it.  What makes Kelly Chan so popular?  Personally, I don't
think she is that pretty or cool; and she definitely CAN'T sing.

Bonnie

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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:39:35 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Simon Leung Cheuk-man 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

At 09:48 AM 11/11/1996 -0800, bonnieyu wrote:
>Which is her best album?  Wow, this is hard to say.  I'd say "Maze at
>Night" and "My Way" are both the best.  But her other albums are good,
>too!
>
>Bonnie (L.A.)
>
>On Thu, 7 Nov 1996 sac42301@saclink.csus.edu wrote:
>
>> Hello Shirley's fan,
>>      This is Maggie, and  I'm a new fan of Shirley.  Can't somebody
>> tell me which is her best album?  When is it published?
>>
>>                                             Thank you all,
>>                                                 Maggie
>>
>
Apart from Bonnie's suggestions, I would like to say the albums "Love is
Forever" (Dec 91), "The Story of Shirley" (Nov. 93) and the mandarin one
"Confused" (Summer 95) are also great ones.  Are there any suggestions?

Besides, is there anyone knows where can I buy back the first Remix of
Shirley, of course, the CD Version.  I can't find it in the market.

**************************************
SIMON LEUNG,  Saint Joseph's College

E-mail:	scmleung@asiaonline.net
Phone:	(852) 2565-8960
	(852) 2563-5186
Pager:	(852) 7200-2922
**************************************

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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:05:06 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

Simon,

Trying to find a remix of Shirley's?  Did you try HMV?  I think they have
a pretty good inventory, they stock almost every album that exists.

Bonnie (L.A.)

On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Simon Leung Cheuk-man wrote:

> At 09:48 AM 11/11/1996 -0800, bonnieyu wrote:
> >Which is her best album?  Wow, this is hard to say.  I'd say "Maze at
> >Night" and "My Way" are both the best.  But her other albums are good,
> >too!
> >
> >Bonnie (L.A.)
> >
> >On Thu, 7 Nov 1996 sac42301@saclink.csus.edu wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Shirley's fan,
> >>      This is Maggie, and  I'm a new fan of Shirley.  Can't somebody
> >> tell me which is her best album?  When is it published?
> >>
> >>                                             Thank you all,
> >>                                                 Maggie
> >>
> >
> Apart from Bonnie's suggestions, I would like to say the albums "Love is
> Forever" (Dec 91), "The Story of Shirley" (Nov. 93) and the mandarin one
> "Confused" (Summer 95) are also great ones.  Are there any suggestions?
>
> Besides, is there anyone knows where can I buy back the first Remix of
> Shirley, of course, the CD Version.  I can't find it in the market.
>
> **************************************
> SIMON LEUNG,  Saint Joseph's College
>
> E-mail:	scmleung@asiaonline.net
> Phone:	(852) 2565-8960
> 	(852) 2563-5186
> Pager:	(852) 7200-2922
> **************************************
>
>

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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:11:14 -0800 (PST)
From: John Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, bonnieyu wrote:

> Which is her best album?  Wow, this is hard to say.  I'd say "Maze at
> Night" and "My Way" are both the best.  But her other albums are good,
> too!

You can also try "True Love" (Jan Ching) and "Make Mystery Dream" (Jai Jo
Mai Mong).

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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:14:53 -0800 (PST)
From: fwan 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Fan Cho Wan 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, bonnieyu wrote:

Bonnie,
Where are you now?  I mean this moment.  I'm in the Leavey Library!!  Just got
you guys' message!
Herman(USC)

> Simon,
>
> Trying to find a remix of Shirley's?  Did you try HMV?  I think they have
> a pretty good inventory, they stock almost every album that exists.
>
> Bonnie (L.A.)
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Simon Leung Cheuk-man wrote:
>
> > At 09:48 AM 11/11/1996 -0800, bonnieyu wrote:
> > >Which is her best album?  Wow, this is hard to say.  I'd say "Maze at
> > >Night" and "My Way" are both the best.  But her other albums are good,
> > >too!
> > >
> > >Bonnie (L.A.)
> > >
> > >On Thu, 7 Nov 1996 sac42301@saclink.csus.edu wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello Shirley's fan,
> > >>      This is Maggie, and  I'm a new fan of Shirley.  Can't somebody
> > >> tell me which is her best album?  When is it published?
> > >>
> > >>                                             Thank you all,
> > >>                                                 Maggie
> > >>
> > >
> > Apart from Bonnie's suggestions, I would like to say the albums "Love is
> > Forever" (Dec 91), "The Story of Shirley" (Nov. 93) and the mandarin one
> > "Confused" (Summer 95) are also great ones.  Are there any suggestions?
> >
> > Besides, is there anyone knows where can I buy back the first Remix of
> > Shirley, of course, the CD Version.  I can't find it in the market.
> >
> > **************************************
> > SIMON LEUNG,  Saint Joseph's College
> >
> > E-mail:	scmleung@asiaonline.net
> > Phone:	(852) 2565-8960
> > 	(852) 2563-5186
> > Pager:	(852) 7200-2922
> > **************************************
> >
> >
>
>

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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:20:24 -0800 (PST)
From: fwan 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Fan Cho Wan 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, John Fong wrote:
Bonnie yu,
OK!  How about the latest album?  Is It also the best comparing with
the her previous album?
Herman


> On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, bonnieyu wrote:
>
> > Which is her best album?  Wow, this is hard to say.  I'd say "Maze at
> > Night" and "My Way" are both the best.  But her other albums are good,
> > too!
>
> You can also try "True Love" (Jan Ching) and "Make Mystery Dream" (Jai Jo
> Mai Mong).
>
>      _     _           ___
>  _  | |___| |_  _ _   | __|__ _ _  __ _  San Francisco State University
> | |_| / _ \ ' \| ' \  | _/ _ \ ' \/ _` | jfong@sfsu.edu  jfong@futon.sfsu.edu
>  \___/\___/_||_|_||_| |_|\___/_||_\__, | WWW: http://futon.sfsu.edu/~jfong
>                                   |___/
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:41:10 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Fumi 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

Of course she CAN sing! I guess she's so popular because she's sort of good
at EVERYTHING. She's tall, she's pretty, she's cool, she can dance, she can
act, she talks cute... I saw her concert in Toronto this summer, she's
really a natural born performer. 

Love,
Fumi :P

>Hi everyone,
>
>I don't get it.  What makes Kelly Chan so popular?  Personally, I don't
>think she is that pretty or cool; and she definitely CAN'T sing.
>
>Bonnie
>
>
>

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Date: 11 Nov 1996 21:26:40 EDT
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

Hi,
       Which album is the best you ask?  I think some of her English
songs are really good too.  I notice that she sings extremely well in
English, with perfect flawless pronounciation.  It's unfortunate that
not too many people are aware of this and Shirely herself does not have
too many songs in English.

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Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:15:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: sjl@vcn.bc.ca

On 11 Nov 1996 dcheung@mmhs.markham.on.ca wrote:

> Hi,
>        Which album is the best you ask?  I think some of her English
> songs are really good too.  I notice that she sings extremely well in
> English, with perfect flawless pronounciation.  It's unfortunate that
> not too many people are aware of this and Shirely herself does not have
> too many songs in English.
> 
  Yep, Shirley does sing really well in English,prob due to the fact that 
she went to school in the states....
  Actually,when Shirley was interviewed by Wyman Wong (can't remember exact 
date...I have it on tape somewhere..)she was asked:why she doesn't have 
more songs in English and would she consider recording another Eng album
  --her reply was that the contract with the Japanese record co.(the one 
that has all her Eng songs)expired and they didn't renew it..
On why she doesn't have an Eng album out (along the likes of Alex To, 
Sandy etc)was cos she didn't think there would be enuf people out there 
to buy it,"just me listening/buying to it!"she said(or something along the 
lines of that!).
  BUT--I heard that her new album (the one that Polygram is currently 
putting on hold--anymore news,anybody??!)has an English song on it--but she 
wouldn't tell the name of the song--oh well!
Catcha Later!    S.L.  

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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:24:38 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Simon Leung 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

At 09:26 PM 11/11/1996 EDT, you wrote:
>Hi,
>       Which album is the best you ask?  I think some of her English
>songs are really good too.  I notice that she sings extremely well in
>English, with perfect flawless pronounciation.  It's unfortunate that
>not too many people are aware of this and Shirely herself does not have
>too many songs in English.
>
>
There is one English song of Shirley I liked most.  It is called "Say
Goodbye" and was included in one of her Japanese album "Say Goodbye" (Nov
89).  I have the lyrics of this song, does anyone want it?  Since it cannot
be found in the homepage.  This song's lyrics was re-written in Cantonese
and was included in the Cantonese album "Love Is Forever" (Dec 91), track
no. 8.  

Simon (H.K.)

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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:34:46 -0500
To: "Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
        CHONG MUI NGAM" ,
        Heung Wai Lam Willie ,
        "C.W.C. Leung" , s965556@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk,
        Emilia Chan , choy@eastworld.net,
        ngchris@ecf.toronto.edu, Leung Kit Hing ,
        shirley-list@hookup.net,
        Hui Wing Yin Marisa  (by way of Kar-On Chan ) (by way of on on / anna ),
        juwa@hkstar.com, s965557@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk,
        s965560@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk, s965563@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk,
        s965564@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk, s965550@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk,
        s965552@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk, D2910@netvigator.com,
        waiping@netvigator.com, patai@kpmg.ca, wk23@cornell.edu,
        ngtf@eniac.seas.upenn.edu, dkwong@umich.edu, kysc@zeta.org.au,
        Chuen Yee Lo , kane@waw.umd.edu,
        Patricia_Huen@brown.edu
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 
Subject: Hong Kong Question

Dear guys,
I know that this does not really relate to your work but -- I need your
help! Any info' or suggestion helps *_* I know this is a boring topic but I
am doing this speech class and the final project is coming up. Big time acty
:< My prof wants me to do sth "serious", so she "advise" me to talk about
the future of HK. My classmates nod in agreement. So I am kinda stuck w/
this topic. They are all foreigners who have quite a lot of miscon. /
ignorance on the field. I am trying to clear their mind a bit about what is
really going on (though I myself am not clear also :p) So anyways, pls help
me and ans. the following questions...

1. What do you think are the common misconceptions of foreigners on the view
of HK?
2. How to clear them?
3. Are you confy of HK after 1997?
4. What do you expect will happen? (can give more than 1 view)
5. Why do you think that way? (very important)
6. View on China HK-policy?
7. View on Britain HK-policy?
8. View on views of HK ppl (i.e. what do you & your friends think?)
9. Does econ, soc affect poli? How?

Basically they want sort of an overview of the prob. (i.e. history etc.)
That is not difficult to do :> Then they want to know what is gonna happen,
thye may think that "nth will change" but at the same time "everything will
change". What is nth/everything? What is your intepretation? Besides, only
time can tell what future lies in front of us... We are no gypsies to know.
So it is only a matter of different prospectives. So I want to incorporate
as many kinds of attitute to the prob. as possible. I really appreciate a
lot of your time used in this. You can ans the brain-storming questions
listed above or/and just give me short paragraph of how you feel and how you
think of the subject. I know it is mega-mono. but I really thank you for it.
BTW, if you can forward this to a friend, it wld be more wonderful...

I greatly appreciate your time & effort. Reply (ASAP ^_^) pls make to:
Kar-On_Chan@brown.edu                   Thank you for your kind attention.

Best regards ^_*
on on
________________

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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:04:56 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Fan Cho Wan 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

Herman,

Wow, you go to USC, too?  Kinda of surprised me, I mean, there is actually
somebody from the list who's that close to here.

Bonnie

-----------------------------------

Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:16:49 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

Hi,

Shirley has some English songs, too?  I didn't know that?!

Where can I find them?

Bonnie

On 11 Nov 1996 dcheung@mmhs.markham.on.ca wrote:

> Hi,
>        Which album is the best you ask?  I think some of her English
> songs are really good too.  I notice that she sings extremely well in
> English, with perfect flawless pronounciation.  It's unfortunate that
> not too many people are aware of this and Shirely herself does not have
> too many songs in English.
> 

-----------------------------------

Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:23:49 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!

Hi Will,

Wait, chill out, will you?  I didn't say "she sucks".  I just said I don't
think
she's all that.  That's all.

And to tell you the truth, without makeup, I'm better looking than she is.

Have a nice day.

Bonnie

On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Wil Wong wrote:

> Wei Shirleylist:
> 
> I am quite upset about something I found in my mailbox today.  
> Bonnie...who the hell do you think you are?!?!?!  Telling me that 
> Kelly Chen's singing sucks?  So you think she's ugly too 'eh?  Well
> I'd like to so your face before you appoint yourself as a judge of 
> beauty!  
> 
> How can you criticize one's singing and expect to have some validity to 
> your argument if all you say is that "she sucks"?  At least justify your 
> flaming with examples....  
> 
> I like Kelly Chen.  Her style is quite refreshing in a serious talent 
> drought in HK....if you listen carefully, her voice is quite reminiscent 
> of retro Sandy Lam and some current Shirley Kwan, with a touch of 
> Faye....I think I might even like Kelly Chen more than Shirley now....at 
> least Kelly has released a Cd in the last year!  I know I shouldn't be 
> mad at Shirley for this  because it's PolyGram's fault for the 
> delay...those greedy *&!*@&!!!!  Now they're holding us Shirley fans 
> hostage by keeping that Cd from being released....argh....  
> 
> Is there somewhere we can complain about this unnecessary delay?
> What is PolyGram's e-mail?  We should all flame them for their treatment 
> of us Shirley fans....
> 
> Congrats on Shirley for her role in the new Wong Ga Wai film!
> 
> Will . .
>       U
> 

-----------------------------------

Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:26:11 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

At 07:16 PM 11/12/96 -0800, Bonnie wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Shirley has some English songs, too?  I didn't know that?!
>
>Where can I find them?
 
The Two Japanese Ablum she has made ......
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

-----------------------------------

Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:43:15 -0800
From: Wil Wong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Bitchin' Email!

Wei Shirleylist:

I am quite upset about something I found in my mailbox today.  
Bonnie...who the hell do you think you are?!?!?!  Telling me that 
Kelly Chen's singing sucks?  So you think she's ugly too 'eh?  Well
I'd like to so your face before you appoint yourself as a judge of 
beauty!  

How can you criticize one's singing and expect to have some validity to 
your argument if all you say is that "she sucks"?  At least justify your 
flaming with examples....  

I like Kelly Chen.  Her style is quite refreshing in a serious talent 
drought in HK....if you listen carefully, her voice is quite reminiscent 
of retro Sandy Lam and some current Shirley Kwan, with a touch of 
Faye....I think I might even like Kelly Chen more than Shirley now....at 
least Kelly has released a Cd in the last year!  I know I shouldn't be 
mad at Shirley for this  because it's PolyGram's fault for the 
delay...those greedy *&!*@&!!!!  Now they're holding us Shirley fans 
hostage by keeping that Cd from being released....argh....  

Is there somewhere we can complain about this unnecessary delay?
What is PolyGram's e-mail?  We should all flame them for their treatment 
of us Shirley fans....

Congrats on Shirley for her role in the new Wong Ga Wai film!

Will . .
      U

-----------------------------------

From: Tam Ignatius 
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:58:10 +0800 (HKT)

> 
> Wei Shirleylist:
> 
> I am quite upset about something I found in my mailbox today.  
> Bonnie...who the hell do you think you are?!?!?!  Telling me that 
> Kelly Chen's singing sucks?  So you think she's ugly too 'eh?  Well
> I'd like to so your face before you appoint yourself as a judge of 
> beauty!  
> 
Well, Kelly Chan is ok but I have some thing that i pretty o^ 
is she can't stand up straight.  Don't know if she's Sn or what
I feel very B and i'm annoyed to see her on stage.

-iGnatius

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*     What is CUTE?  Visit its homepage: http://www.sitaaps.org     *

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Date: 	Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:17:55 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's Albums

On On/Anna/Kar-On wrote:
> 
> At 07:16 PM 11/12/96 -0800, Bonnie wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Shirley has some English songs, too?  I didn't know that?!
> >
> >Where can I find them?
> 
> The Two Japanese Ablum she has made ......
> Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\
> you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \
> Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \
> someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _
> Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
>                                 U_U
>         ^_^                 |  I>o                            /|    |    |\
>                           / |    |    | \
>                           \ \___/ \___/ />>>>>>>

You mean, she doesn't sing in Japanese in those japanese albums?

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

-----------------------------------

Date: 	Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:27:05 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!

bonnieyu wrote:
> 
> Hi Will,
> 
> Wait, chill out, will you?  I didn't say "she sucks".  I just said I don't
> think
> she's all that.  That's all.
> 
> And to tell you the truth, without makeup, I'm better looking than she is.
> 
> Have a nice day.
> 
> Bonnie
> 
> On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Wil Wong wrote:
> 
> > Wei Shirleylist:
> >
> > I am quite upset about something I found in my mailbox today.
> > Bonnie...who the hell do you think you are?!?!?!  Telling me that
> > Kelly Chen's singing sucks?  So you think she's ugly too 'eh?  Well
> > I'd like to so your face before you appoint yourself as a judge of
> > beauty!
> >
> > How can you criticize one's singing and expect to have some validity to
> > your argument if all you say is that "she sucks"?  At least justify your
> > flaming with examples....
> >
> > I like Kelly Chen.  Her style is quite refreshing in a serious talent
> > drought in HK....if you listen carefully, her voice is quite reminiscent
> > of retro Sandy Lam and some current Shirley Kwan, with a touch of
> > Faye....I think I might even like Kelly Chen more than Shirley now....at
> > least Kelly has released a Cd in the last year!  I know I shouldn't be
> > mad at Shirley for this  because it's PolyGram's fault for the
> > delay...those greedy *&!*@&!!!!  Now they're holding us Shirley fans
> > hostage by keeping that Cd from being released....argh....
> >
> > Is there somewhere we can complain about this unnecessary delay?
> > What is PolyGram's e-mail?  We should all flame them for their treatment
> > of us Shirley fans....
> >
> > Congrats on Shirley for her role in the new Wong Ga Wai film!
> >
> > Will . .
> >       U
> >

(BTW, I don't want to talk about some other singers when this is actually 
Shirley's "list." )

Well, Will, I just have to agree with Bonnie Yu.  I don't think Kelly Chen is 
pretty nor does she sing well, though I have to agree that the pictures in her 
albums are of excellent quality (I like photography). I think that she sorta knows 
how to sing though not a professional yet.  But her "fake voice" sucks -- that's 
what I don't understand.  Why does she use her "fake voice" all the time?!  I 
mean, everybody can use that! I think it's one's "true voice" that counts the most 
part.  And for the other part, of course it's your talents and style.  What if 
Bonnie Yu becomes a movie star one day?  You never know!  But I think Kelly Chen 
still has a long way to go before she gets to the top.  Personally, I WOULDN'T buy 
her CD's.  I think she's famous just because she's lucky.  Being popular doesn't 
mean she's really good.  You see, not many people like Shirley -- even most 
journalists criticize her in negative ways (don't I despise them!)  That doesn't 
mean Shirley's not talented, as opposed to the truth.

Anyway, my point is, everyone has his/her own opinion, and it's okay for you to 
like Kelly Chen, it's just that I don't.

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:47:40 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

At 09:17 PM 11/12/96 -0800, JO JO wrote:
>You mean, she doesn't sing in Japanese in those japanese albums?

There are both Jap & Eng songs in the 2 Jap albums.

>* My Secret Garden *

BTW, what does "my secret garden" means? Do you like the book?

yours, on on
_________________
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

-----------------------------------

Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:47:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

Greetings:

Gosh,what is this issue with Kelly Chen?!!!Oh well!I just have to say that 
everyone has their own opinions......

I have 2 questions:
  1.What is the name of the movie that Shirley is doing??I  think I heard 
someone say that it was "No Frills Products"(does this have anything to do 
with the Hong Kong 'Wellcome' Supermarket??!)in English,but what is it in 
Chinese??(I can't read/decode the Chinese characters on the site,so could 
somone pls write it like: "Chung hing sum lum"(that other movie Wong 
made...) 
  2.I was always wondering:does anybody know how Sheryl Crow came to 
writing that song for Shirley( "Talking to myself")?
->Did Shirley directly approach Sheryl Crow??
I'm sure Sheryl must've been really busy last year what with all the Grammys 
and awards she was receiving.All I heard was that Sheryl wrote the tune 
especially for Shirley and Shirley's music team modified it to suit Shirley's 
style.
Thanks!

Later,
_________________________________________    
|         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
|     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
|         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
|____     |         |         |         |  
|         |    |    |   |     |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
|_________|____|____|___|_____|____|____|    

 

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 02:30:06 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: 

At 10:47 PM -0800 11/12/96, Sara Leung wrote:

>  1.What is the name of the movie that Shirley is doing??I  think I heard
>someone say that it was "No Frills Products"(does this have anything to do
>with the Hong Kong 'Wellcome' Supermarket??!)in English,but what is it in
>Chinese??(I can't read/decode the Chinese characters on the site,so could
>somone pls write it like: "Chung hing sum lum"(that other movie Wong
>made...)

I might be wrong, but it seems either it is not the same movie, or the
movie has a new name. The romanization of the title of the movie she's
reportedly working on is "Chun Kwong Jar Sit", as in Anthony Wong's hit.

Keith


-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:25:11 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

On On/Anna/Kar-On wrote:
> 
> >* My Secret Garden *
> 
> BTW, what does "my secret garden" means? Do you like the book?

No, I haven't heard of nor have I read a book named "my secret garden." 
It's in fact the name of my web page which I'm close to finish creating. 
It sort of comes from "Secret Garden" by Madonna (Erotica '92, #13) 
since I'm a big fan of hers.

Jo Jo

-- 
* My Secret Garden *

-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:18:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Subject: Bitchin' Emails!
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

My,my, what a flamed topic we have touched upon....The conflict of 
agreements between Shirley list members in regards to whether they think
Kelly Chen is any good or not...

Wouldn't Shirley be appalled if she read those emails!

May I make a comment:This IS Shirley's list and personal(esp.any non 
constructive) opinions on other people/stars/celebrities etc doesn't 
seem entirely appropriate.I mean,what would *we* say if some one was 
dissing Shirley(or making any sort of comments) on the Kelly List??!!
We'd never hear the end of it!!  

And,the comment by some one who stated that they prefer Kelly over 
Shirley now 'cos Kelly has released several albums this year whereas 
Shirley's is being postponed--Is this a plausible reason to make a 
preference?!!And we all know it isn't Shirley's fault that this 
upcoming album couldn't be released earlier!!

On the topic,here's an excerp of an interview in which Shirley was asked 
about her thoughts on Kelly:

(FM997:Dec 31,95)
FM997 DJ: Kelly really was an overnight success!!Do you feel pressure over 
this??Does it seem like there is a big wave catching up behind you??
S: She really shot up fast,didn't she?Of course,a wave is needed..I 
think that Kelly really has "cheen jut"( NB:SORRY!My Chinese isn't that 
great--I think this means "style"or something of the sort...) and as 
an artist,experience is really important--I hope she treasures the 
experience...

Ok,Later! 
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
 ________________________________________________________________________

-----------------------------------

From: sac42301@saclink.csus.edu
Comments: Authenticated sender is 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:44:32 +0000
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!

>From Maggie:
         People!  Where're here to talk about Shirley, not Kelly!  I 
agree, Kelly is very lucky and yet some people still did not accept 
her yet, give them times...
         Anyway, I would like to here more about Shirley instead of 
Kelly.
                                         Maggie

-----------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:57:43 +0800 (HKT)
From: Mr Forest Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re:  Bitchin' Emails!

cheen jut = second hand car.

just kidding.

you mean potential.

-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:10:03 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Emails!

At 03:18 AM 11/13/96 -0800, Sarah wrote:
>I think that Kelly really has "cheen jut"( NB:SORRY!My Chinese isn't that 
>great--I think this means "style"or something of the sort...) 

"Cheen jut"  means potential... So Kelly has the potential to be a great
pop queen... that sort! It is a very useful word.

on on
___
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:13:26 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 
Subject: Re:  Bitchin' Emails!

At 12:57 AM 11/14/96 +0800, forest fong wrote:
>cheen jut = second hand car.
>just kidding.
>you mean potential.

Really funny.

on on
____________________
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

-----------------------------------

  (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:29:11 -0400
    13 Nov 96 20:29:16 +0400
From: "Vanessa Kam" <013950K@axe.acadiau.ca>
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:29:02 AST4ADT
Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.

> From:          LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
> Date:          Wed, 13 Nov 96 16:00:20 -0800
> Subject:       Infor regarding Shirley.
> Cc:            shirley-list@hookup.net
> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net

>      Can someone tell me how old is Shirley and when is her birthday?
>      
>      Does anyone has her latest pictures?
> 
>
Shirley's B-day is on August 15th, but I have no idea on how old she 
is...I'd say she's around 25...maybe!!^_^ 

-----------------------------------

Date: 	Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:11:07 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

Hi! Jo Jo:
  What about your name "Jo Jo"? You got this name from the Japanese comic 
named 'Jo Jo - The amazing adventure.' Have you heard this comic?

                					    Tom
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Jo Jo wrote:

> On On/Anna/Kar-On wrote:
> > 
> > >* My Secret Garden *
> > 
> > BTW, what does "my secret garden" means? Do you like the book?
> 
> No, I haven't heard of nor have I read a book named "my secret garden." 
> It's in fact the name of my web page which I'm close to finish creating. 
> It sort of comes from "Secret Garden" by Madonna (Erotica '92, #13) 
> since I'm a big fan of hers.
> 
> Jo Jo
> 
> -- 
> * My Secret Garden *
> 
> 

-----------------------------------

  (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:43:03 -0400
    13 Nov 96 21:43:08 +0400
From: "Vanessa Kam" <013950K@axe.acadiau.ca>
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:42:34 AST4ADT
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!

> From:          sac42301@saclink.csus.edu
> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
> Date:          Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:44:32 +0000
> Subject:       Re: Bitchin' Email!
> > Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net

> From Maggie:
>          People!  Where're here to talk about Shirley, not Kelly!  I 
> agree, Kelly is very lucky and yet some people still did not accept 
> her yet, give them times...
>          Anyway, I would like to here more about Shirley instead of 
> Kelly.
>                                          Maggie
>
Agree with you!^_^ 

-----------------------------------

Date: 	Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:26:26 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: your mail

Sara Leung:
  Hi! Sara. Where did you get the news that Sheryl Crow wrote a song for 
Shirley? From a magizine or your friends? I never heard this news before. 
I have totally no idea why Sheryl wrote Shirly a song. I think they are 
really different whatever the way they sing and also their image. And you 
mention the song 'Talking to myself', from which Shirley's album.
  Do you like Sheryl Crow? I'm sure you bought her newest album. How is it?
I read an artical which said that this album is very bad. It doesn't 
worth to buy. Is it true from your point of view? 
                                    
                                                    Tom
                                                    Toronto

On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Sara Leung wrote:

> Greetings:
> 
> Gosh,what is this issue with Kelly Chen?!!!Oh well!I just have to say that 
> everyone has their own opinions......
> 
> I have 2 questions:
>   1.What is the name of the movie that Shirley is doing??I  think I heard 
> someone say that it was "No Frills Products"(does this have anything to do 
> with the Hong Kong 'Wellcome' Supermarket??!)in English,but what is it in 
> Chinese??( I can't read/decode the Chinese characters on the site,so could 
> somone pls write it like: "Chung hing sum lum"(that other movie Wong 
> made...) 
>   2.I was always wondering:does anybody know how Sheryl Crow came to 
> writing that song for Shirley( "Talking to myself")?
> ->Did Shirley directly approach Sheryl Crow??
> I'm sure Sheryl must've been really busy last year what with all the Grammys 
> and awards she was receiving.All I heard was that Sheryl wrote the tune 
> especially for Shirley and Shirley's music team modified it to suit Shirley's 
> style.
> Thanks!
> 
> Later,
> _________________________________________    
> |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
> |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
> |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
> |____     |         |         |         |  
> |         |    |    |   |     |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
> |_________|____|____|___|_____|____|____|    
> 
>  
> 
> 

-----------------------------------

From: LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 16:00:20 -0800
Subject: Infor regarding Shirley.
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     Can someone tell me how old is Shirley and when is her birthday?
     
     Does anyone has her latest pictures?

-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:36:03 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:
> 
> Hi! Jo Jo:
>   What about your name "Jo Jo"? You got this name from the Japanese comic
> named 'Jo Jo - The amazing adventure.' Have you heard this comic?
> 
>                                                             Tom

No!  Never heard of that either!  That's just my nickname - what 
everybody calls me.  Japanese comics?  I don't know any, but I love 
Arale-chan (Dr. Slump).  And I'm learning japanese and loving it!

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:39:41 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: ninka@portal.ca (Ninka)
Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.

>Shirley's B-day is on August 15th, but I have no idea on how old she 
>is...I'd say she's around 25...maybe!!^_^ 

To be more exact, Shirley's birthdate is August 15, 1966 (that makes her 30
years old)

Request: Does anyone have a good wallpaper of Shirley for Win 95? If so,
could you e-mail it to me???

e-mail: ninka@portal.ca

-----------------------------------

Date: 	Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:40:53 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.

LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com wrote:
> 
>      Can someone tell me how old is Shirley and when is her birthday?
> 
>      Does anyone has her latest pictures?

I'm pretty sure she's born on August 15, 1967 but of course I can't say 
it is 100% correct.  Ask Shirley!

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:33:04 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Chan Oi Yee 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

JO JO WROTE
>> No, I haven't heard of nor have I read a book named "my secret garden." 
>> It's in fact the name of my web page which I'm close to finish creating. 
>> It sort of comes from "Secret Garden" by Madonna (Erotica '92, #13) 
>> since I'm a big fan of hers.

let us know the web site address when you are done, ok?
 on on
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:42:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Subject: Talking to Myself...
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

Hey Tom!!

Q:Where did I hear that Sheryl Crow wrote a song for Shirley?
A:Well,it was from a Radio Show (FM997,Dec 31st 95,2B precise)--Shirley was 
there as a guest for the "Banana Queen" segment.
(I thought the interview was rather pointless and degrading,and Shirley 
seemed rather uncomfy in answering the "mo liu" q's  ) 

Anyways,the DJ announced Shirley's new song,"Here's Shirley's new 
song!Sheryl Crow wrote it for you,eh?"
She replied, "Yeh..." <--that's all that she said !I think she was 
pissed with the question asked b4 the song came up,that's why she said so 
little. Those !@#$%^&* annoying DJ's !!!! :{
I checked the credits for the song and it was published by "Old Crow 
Music" But how Sheryl Crow actually came to writing it for 'e,I'll never 
know....

The song can be found on a remix compilation released by Polygram last 
Xmas called "Lucky Sound Remix Collection" (The cover has this really 
weird robot type figure made of musical instruments!)
The album has 2 of Shirley's songs on it:
"Talking to Myself" and "Pleasant Dream"(which I think is a *really* fab 
song..).Both have this really "alternative" feel to it.

Sheryl Crow's self titled new album is (in my opinion) reallly good--but I 
still like her first album (Tues Night Music Club)more. I guess 
it'll grow on me.....Anyways,on with the 'e news!!

Hope that helped!!

Ps:Has anybody seen the movie that uses Shirley's song "Pleasant Dream" 
('Yee Moong') in it?It's of the same title...
Just wonderin'...

Pps:Many thanks to the people that corrected me re:"cheen jut" and haha, the 
second hand car joke was really something.

Later,

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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 19:15:33 -0800
From: Faithy_Leong@sfbayguardian.com (Faithy Leong)
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

Yeah I hafta agree that Kelly Chen can really sing. I mean, take her as a
beginner and I think she's great. About her looks, I think its weird how
sometimes you can think that she's really pretty and down to earth, then
sometimes she can look like she haven't slept for like months. BUT. Before I
get off topic, yeah she does have some sort of ties with shirley, from what I
notice, maybe their style...probably before both of them had fashion design
background. As for sound, she sounds more like Sandy Lam.

Polygram totally should be flamed cuz they put shirley's career in such LAG!
Gosh. I mean she is just beginning to flourish and all of the sudden it stops!
That sucks. My neck is getting longer and longer by day cuz I've been waiting
for so long. It's been a year and a half since her last album!!! What's up
with that??!??!


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:47:03 +0800 (HKT)
From: Tong Lai Yin 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Talking to Myself...

I also have heard that Sheryl Crow has written that song specially for 
Shirley.But I don't know how,I know this when I listen to CR2 and the 
DJ's introduction.But I think as Sheryl is not very famous in HK,people 
don't bother to mention it.And once it is also said that the composers in 
the coming album will be all foreigners.But this news is by Cr2 DJs 
almost an year ago.I think this is subject to errors!

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:16:01 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Pseudonym Chan <95241950d@hkpucc.polyu.edu.hk>
Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.

>>      Can someone tell me how old is Shirley and when is her birthday?
>>      
>>      Does anyone has her latest pictures?
>> 
>>
>Shirley's B-day is on August 15th, but I have no idea on how old she 
>is...I'd say she's around 25...maybe!!^_^ 

There was a Japanese magazine revealed that (a year ago), Shirley was 29

Pseudonym

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:24:04 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

Chan Oi Yee wrote:
> 
> JO JO WROTE
> >> No, I haven't heard of nor have I read a book named "my secret garden."
> >> It's in fact the name of my web page which I'm close to finish creating.
> >> It sort of comes from "Secret Garden" by Madonna (Erotica '92, #13)
> >> since I'm a big fan of hers.
> 
> let us know the web site address when you are done, ok?
>  on on

YOU BET!

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:29:57 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Pseudonym Chan <95241950d@hkpucc.polyu.edu.hk>
Subject: Battle Field?? It is what Shirley's fan should be???
  (Self-discipline)

To all Shirley's fan,
        I would like to ask a question for THOSE who are TOO ACTIVE in the
Shirley list:
        "Is Shirley list the Battle field between Shirley and Kelly Chan???"
        Should the Shirley's fan like that: Jealous, always criticise...
more appropiate defame other artists???
        Does THOSE people have second thought on what they are doing??
        I hope the AUTHORITY CONCERNED can take the appropiate action!!

Pseudonym

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:48:39 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Battle Field?? It is what Shirley's fan should be???
	  (Self-discipline)

Pseudonym Chan wrote:
> 
> To all Shirley's fan,
>         I would like to ask a question for THOSE who are TOO ACTIVE in the
> Shirley list:
>         "Is Shirley list the Battle field between Shirley and Kelly Chan???"
>         Should the Shirley's fan like that: Jealous, always criticise...
> more appropiate defame other artists???
>         Does THOSE people have second thought on what they are doing??
>         I hope the AUTHORITY CONCERNED can take the appropiate action!!
> 
> Pseudonym

If everyone's arguing about the issue of Kelly Chen, I suggest let's 
just drop it.  It's better for Shirley and her fans 'cuz this IS the 
"Shirley-list," is it not?  So, no more comments about Kelly Chen (at 
least for a while) 'cuz a lot of Shirley's fans are probably sick of 
this discussion about her.  I think Kelly should be discussed in HER 
newsgroup, not Shirley's.  I hope Kelly's fans understand.

Jo Jo

-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:20:20 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.

On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Ninka wrote:

> To be more exact, Shirley's birthdate is August 15, 1966 (that makes her 30
> years old)

You should be right.
http://www.asahi.co.jp/asia/asia-music/kwanE.html

> Request: Does anyone have a good wallpaper of Shirley for Win 95? If so,
> could you e-mail it to me???

you can simply convert the JPEG images downloaded from 'e space to BMP and
set it as wallpaper. 

[LMK :P]

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:24:54 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: your mail

On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Sara Leung wrote:

> I'm sure Sheryl must've been really busy last year what with all the Grammys 
> and awards she was receiving.All I heard was that Sheryl wrote the tune 
> especially for Shirley and Shirley's music team modified it to suit Shirley's 
> style.

Please refer to 
http://www.hookup.net/~khui/shirley/news/news95.html#120995

[LMK :P]

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:28:49 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Movie

On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Keith Hui wrote:

> >  1.What is the name of the movie that Shirley is doing??I  think I heard
> >someone say that it was "No Frills Products"(does this have anything to do
> >with the Hong Kong 'Wellcome' Supermarket??!)in English,but what is it in
> >Chinese??(I can't read/decode the Chinese characters on the site,so could
> >somone pls write it like: "Chung hing sum lum"(that other movie Wong
> >made...)
> I might be wrong, but it seems either it is not the same movie, or the
> movie has a new name. The romanization of the title of the movie she's
> reportedly working on is "Chun Kwong Jar Sit", as in Anthony Wong's hit.

They are not the same movie. "No Frills Products" (or Mo Yan Leung Bun)
should be, if any, Wong's next movie. Please refer to
http://www.hookup.net/~khui/shirley/news/news.html#052696.2

[LMK :P]

 < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL:lmk@moon.csc.cuhk.edu.hk >



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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:38:26 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Talking to Myself...

On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Sara Leung wrote:

> Q:Where did I hear that Sheryl Crow wrote a song for Shirley?
> A:Well,it was from a Radio Show (FM997,Dec 31st 95,2B precise)--Shirley was 
> there as a guest for the "Banana Queen" segment.

In Metro Radio Music Award 96, Shirley performed Are There Any Real
Friends In Life, Talking To Myself along with Strong Enough. The host
asked Shirley and Shirley mentioned she like Sheryl Crow quit a lot. 

> I checked the credits for the song and it was published by "Old Crow 
> Music" But how Sheryl Crow actually came to writing it for 'e,I'll never 
> know....

In Alan Tam album The One And Only released 1st Q of 96, there are at
least 2 songs from Old Crow Music. FYI, the producer of Alan's albums is
Joseph Ip.

[LMK :P]

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:17:36 +1000 (GMT+1000)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: s312205@student.uq.edu.au (Coffee)
Subject: Fw: New Virus (fwd)

>From: chan@warehouse.net (Brandon Chan)
>To: "Scs Leo" , "Mauro Virgilio" ,
>        "Coffee" ,
>        "Boyne Cutting" 
>Subject: Fw: New Virus (fwd)
>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:19:25 +1100
>
>
>
>----------
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>> To: chan@warehouse.net
>> Subject: Fw: New Virus (fwd)
>> Date: Thursday, 14 November 1996 1:26
>> 
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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:53:18 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Simon Leung 
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!

At 04:44 PM 11/13/1996 +0000, Maggie wrote:
>         People!  Where're here to talk about Shirley, not Kelly!  I 
>agree, Kelly is very lucky and yet some people still did not accept 
>her yet, give them times...
>         Anyway, I would like to here more about Shirley instead of 
>Kelly.

I agreed with you, Maggie.  All Shirley's fans, let's stop talking in this
list with something that have no connection with Shirley, OK? 

Simon Leung
SJC, HK

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:53:20 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Simon Leung 
Subject: Re: Talking to Myself...

At 06:42 PM 11/13/1996 -0800, Sara wrote:

>Q:Where did I hear that Sheryl Crow wrote a song for Shirley?
>A:Well,it was from a Radio Show (FM997,Dec 31st 95,2B precise)--Shirley
>was there as a guest for the "Banana Queen" segment.
>(I thought the interview was rather pointless and degrading,and Shirley 
>seemed rather uncomfy in answering the "mo liu" q's Shirley,she likes talking 'bout music and other too personal q's 
>she'd rather not discuss> ) 

I am too new.  Can I ask a rather stupid question that who is Sheryl Crow?
Will anyone answer me?

Simon Leung
SJC, HK

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 23:58:03 +0800
Subject: Re: Talking to Myself...

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:53:20 +0800, Simon Leung wrote:

>I am too new.  Can I ask a rather stupid question that who is Sheryl Crow?
>Will anyone answer me?
>
>Simon Leung
>SJC, HK
>
>
Sheryl Crow is an American country pop singer.

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:16:18 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!

EXACTLY!  I totally agree with Jo Jo.  I can't stand her "fake voice"
neither.

Bonnie

On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Jo Jo wrote:

> bonnieyu wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Will,
> > 
> > Wait, chill out, will you?  I didn't say "she sucks".  I just said I don't
> > think
> > she's all that.  That's all.
> > 
> > And to tell you the truth, without makeup, I'm better looking than she is.
> > 
> > Have a nice day.
> > 
> > Bonnie
> > 
> > On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Wil Wong wrote:
> > 
> > > Wei Shirleylist:
> > >
> > > I am quite upset about something I found in my mailbox today.
> > > Bonnie...who the hell do you think you are?!?!?!  Telling me that
> > > Kelly Chen's singing sucks?  So you think she's ugly too 'eh?  Well
> > > I'd like to so your face before you appoint yourself as a judge of
> > > beauty!
> > >
> > > How can you criticize one's singing and expect to have some validity to
> > > your argument if all you say is that "she sucks"?  At least justify your
> > > flaming with examples....
> > >
> > > I like Kelly Chen.  Her style is quite refreshing in a serious talent
> > > drought in HK....if you listen carefully, her voice is quite reminiscent
> > > of retro Sandy Lam and some current Shirley Kwan, with a touch of
> > > Faye....I think I might even like Kelly Chen more than Shirley now....at
> > > least Kelly has released a Cd in the last year!  I know I shouldn't be
> > > mad at Shirley for this  because it's PolyGram's fault for the
> > > delay...those greedy *&!*@&!!!!  Now they're holding us Shirley fans
> > > hostage by keeping that Cd from being released....argh....
> > >
> > > Is there somewhere we can complain about this unnecessary delay?
> > > What is PolyGram's e-mail?  We should all flame them for their treatment
> > > of us Shirley fans....
> > >
> > > Congrats on Shirley for her role in the new Wong Ga Wai film!
> > >
> > > Will . .
> > >       U
> > >
> 
> (BTW, I don't want to talk about some other singers when this is actually 
> Shirley's "list." )
> 
> Well, Will, I just have to agree with Bonnie Yu.  I don't think Kelly Chen is 
> pretty nor does she sing well, though I have to agree that the pictures in her 
> albums are of excellent quality (I like photography). I think that she sorta knows 
> how to sing though not a professional yet.  But her "fake voice" sucks -- that's 
> what I don't understand.  Why does she use her "fake voice" all the time?!  I 
> mean, everybody can use that! I think it's one's "true voice" that counts the most 
> part.  And for the other part, of course it's your talents and style.  What if 
> Bonnie Yu becomes a movie star one day?  You never know!  But I think Kelly Chen 
> still has a long way to go before she gets to the top.  Personally, I WOULDN'T buy 
> her CD's.  I think she's famous just because she's lucky.  Being popular doesn't 
> mean she's really good.  You see, not many people like Shirley -- even most 
> journalists criticize her in negative ways (don't I despise them!)  That doesn't 
> mean Shirley's not talented, as opposed to the truth.
> 
> Anyway, my point is, everyone has his/her own opinion, and it's okay for you to 
> like Kelly Chen, it's just that I don't.
> 
> Jo Jo
> -- 
> * My Secret Garden *
> 
> 

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From: LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 09:13:55 -0800
Subject: Re: Battle Field?? It is what Shirley's fan should be???
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     So, what should we talk about?

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Battle Field?? It is what Shirley's fan should be???
Author:  Non-HP-95241950d (95241950d@hkpucc.polyu.edu.hk) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
Date:    11/13/96 11:29 PM

To all Shirley's fan,
        I would like to ask a question for THOSE who are TOO ACTIVE in the
Shirley list:
        "Is Shirley list the Battle field between Shirley and Kelly Chan???" 
        Should the Shirley's fan like that: Jealous, always criticise...
more appropiate defame other artists???
        Does THOSE people have second thought on what they are doing?? 
        I hope the AUTHORITY CONCERNED can take the appropiate action!!
     
Pseudonym

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From: bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:16:04 -0800 (PST)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

Jo Jo,

I'm also a big fan of Madonna's.  I have all of her albums.  I like that
"Bedtime Stories" very much, especially "Forbidden Love".

Bonnie



At 12:25 AM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>On On/Anna/Kar-On wrote:
>> 
>> >* My Secret Garden *
>> 
>> BTW, what does "my secret garden" means? Do you like the book?
>
>No, I haven't heard of nor have I read a book named "my secret garden." 
>It's in fact the name of my web page which I'm close to finish creating. 
>It sort of comes from "Secret Garden" by Madonna (Erotica '92, #13) 
>since I'm a big fan of hers.
>
>Jo Jo
>
>-- 
>* My Secret Garden *
>
>
>

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From: bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:18:24 -0800 (PST)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re:  Bitchin' Emails!

This is a good one.  Hysterical!

Bonnie

At 12:57 AM 11/14/96 +0800, you wrote:
>cheen jut = second hand car.
>
>just kidding.
>
>you mean potential.
>
>

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From: bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:24:33 -0800 (PST)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

Hi Jo Jo,

So where are you from?  Canada?  How long you've been there?  Can you still
read and speak in Cantonese?

Bonnie
(Since two people have asked you already, somehow it got me started, ha, ha)

At 04:36 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:
>> 
>> Hi! Jo Jo:
>>   What about your name "Jo Jo"? You got this name from the Japanese comic
>> named 'Jo Jo - The amazing adventure.' Have you heard this comic?
>> 
>>                                                             Tom
>
>No!  Never heard of that either!  That's just my nickname - what 
>everybody calls me.  Japanese comics?  I don't know any, but I love 
>Arale-chan (Dr. Slump).  And I'm learning japanese and loving it!
>
>Jo Jo
>-- 
>* My Secret Garden *
>
>
>

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From: bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:26:02 -0800 (PST)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.

Yeah, is there a way that we can talk to Shirley?

Bonnie

At 04:40 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com wrote:
>> 
>>      Can someone tell me how old is Shirley and when is her birthday?
>> 
>>      Does anyone has her latest pictures?
>
>I'm pretty sure she's born on August 15, 1967 but of course I can't say 
>it is 100% correct.  Ask Shirley!
>
>Jo Jo
>-- 
>* My Secret Garden *
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:27:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Return 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

Wei Shirleylist:

Sorry for starting such a mess about Kelly Chen....but I do like her very
much...and I think she is GORGEOUS and talented....

Anyhow, someone mentioned whether or not Shirley'slack of releasing CDs
lately is a "plausible reason" for not liking her as much as I used
to...well, sure it is!  Like a baby who is parted from his/her favourite
blanket, he/she will find another blanket to take its place...feeling this
way about Shirley is only natural....  I know that Shirley isn't the one
to blame, because it is those GREEDY bastards at PolyGram, wanting to ruin
Shirley's career!....argh... It jsut seems that the new Shirley CD will
never come and I 'm starting to give up!...argh....

I agree that we shouldn't "flame" singers on this list....however if we
should flame any singer, at least give validation...not just "she can't
sing"....  Someone also stated that they didn't like Kelly's
"falsetto"....and didn't understand why she uses "falsetto".....well
that's the style now and you've gotta stay in trend....it's called the
"90's female" sound....lots of acoustic in the background while the lead
singer, a female, uses her falsetto, making numerous octave jumps
throughout the song...eg. Faye Wong, Amanda Lee, Kelly Chen, Mavis Hee,
Kit Chan  and now Linda Wong...  

Anyways, in regard to Shirley, I think that Shirley is "one of the best
harmonizers" in HK, agreeing with Anthony Wong....one of the reasons why I
love Shirley sooo mcuh is that she has a unique sense of harmony....and a
great sense of rhythm....eg.  Forget Him:  the background vocals are
amazing!  and same for "Blessed Maria"...Shirley thought of that
background vocals herself!....

Re: Talking to Myself....I don't think Sheryl Crow wrote the song for
Shirley....I think that Shirley just covered the song...and that the
arrangement from the english version is different....I remember Shirley
saying that she played around with the song to make it more suitable for
an HK audience....

Will . .
      U

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From: bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:29:05 -0800 (PST)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email!

Yeah, I agree with you.  It's been a very long time since her last album.
Hope they will release it pretty soon.

Bonnie

At 07:15 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>Yeah I hafta agree that Kelly Chen can really sing. I mean, take her as a
>beginner and I think she's great. About her looks, I think its weird how
>sometimes you can think that she's really pretty and down to earth, then
>sometimes she can look like she haven't slept for like months. BUT. Before I
>get off topic, yeah she does have some sort of ties with shirley, from what I
>notice, maybe their style...probably before both of them had fashion design
>background. As for sound, she sounds more like Sandy Lam.
>
>Polygram totally should be flamed cuz they put shirley's career in such LAG!
>Gosh. I mean she is just beginning to flourish and all of the sudden it stops!
>That sucks. My neck is getting longer and longer by day cuz I've been waiting
>for so long. It's been a year and a half since her last album!!! What's up
>with that??!??!
>
>
>
>--
>
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From: bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:34:55 -0800 (PST)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: your mail

If Sheryl really wrote the song especially for Shireley, I wonder how she
came to know about Shirley, that must be interesting.

Bonnie

At 05:24 PM 11/14/96 +0800, you wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Sara Leung wrote:
>
>> I'm sure Sheryl must've been really busy last year what with all the Grammys 
>> and awards she was receiving.All I heard was that Sheryl wrote the tune 
>> especially for Shirley and Shirley's music team modified it to suit
Shirley's 
>> style.
>
>Please refer to 
>http://www.hookup.net/~khui/shirley/news/news95.html#120995
>
>
>[LMK :P]
>
> < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL:lmk@moon.csc.cuhk.edu.hk >
>
>
>
>

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From: LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 10:44:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     Good question.

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.
Author:  Non-HP-bonnieyu (bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
Date:    11/14/96 9:26 AM

Yeah, is there a way that we can talk to Shirley?
     
Bonnie
     
     
At 04:40 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote: 
>LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com wrote: 
>> 
>>      Can someone tell me how old is Shirley and when is her birthday? 
>> 
>>      Does anyone has her latest pictures? 
>
>I'm pretty sure she's born on August 15, 1967 but of course I can't say 
>it is 100% correct.  Ask Shirley!
>
>Jo Jo
>-- 
>* My Secret Garden *
>
>
>

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Date: 	Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:36:20 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Talking to Myself...

Simon Leung:

Well! You don't know who Sheryl Crow is, because she is not famous in 
H.K. or in the whole Asia. But, she is one of the top female singer in 
U.S. and Canada. If you want to know why she is so popular, I would 
suggest you to buy her first album- 'Tuesday night music club'. It is 
a pretty good album to me. I think you can buy it in H.K., try HMV.

Tom

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Simon Leung wrote:

> At 06:42 PM 11/13/1996 -0800, Sara wrote:
> 
> >Q:Where did I hear that Sheryl Crow wrote a song for Shirley?
> >A:Well,it was from a Radio Show (FM997,Dec 31st 95,2B precise)--Shirley
> >was there as a guest for the "Banana Queen" segment.
> >(I thought the interview was rather pointless and degrading,and Shirley 
> >seemed rather uncomfy in answering the "mo liu" q's  >Shirley,she likes talking 'bout music and other too personal q's 
> >she'd rather not discuss> ) 
> 
> I am too new.  Can I ask a rather stupid question that who is Sheryl Crow?
> Will anyone answer me?
> 
> Simon Leung
> SJC, HK
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:46:34 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

JO JO,
You cannot miss "Evita". BTW, I think the soundtrack of "Evita" shld be
already out now... I looked at the pictures. Madonna is gorgeous in her
1940s elegant look... 
on on
______________________
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:50:16 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

>At 04:36 PM 11/13/96 -0800, TOM wrote:
>>tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:
>>> Hi! Jo Jo:
>>>   What about your name "Jo Jo"? You got this name from the Japanese comic
>>> named 'Jo Jo - The amazing adventure.' Have you heard this comic?
>>>                                                             Tom

Hi Tom, do you like anime too? I love anime. My most recent favorite is the
"Vision (Sky rather) of Escaflowne". Ever heard of it? It is available from
Hecto fansub... Where are you BTW?
Love, on on
____________________________________
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:57:19 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 
Subject: Re: your mail

At 10:34 AM 11/14/96 -0800, Bonnie wrote:
>If Sheryl really wrote the song especially for Shireley, I wonder how she
>came to know about Shirley, that must be interesting.

I do not think the 2 Shes know one another personally. Most probably, I
suspect Joseph Ip just ask the famous singer-song-writer to write him
several songs and he just split it b/t Shirley & "wut dut" Alan Tam...

BTW, what does USC stands for? That is the school you are from, right?
LOVE, on on
____________________________________
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:00:21 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna/Kar-On 

Dear guys,
can anyone tell me a easier way to downlaod the pictures from the net to be
my wallpaper. I am a compu idiot. LMK's method is too complicated, I don't
even know what he tells me to do. As for the other suggestion, I am not
using win3.1 and when I click the right mouse button, I cannot find the "set
as wallpaper" option...
THANX
on on
______________________________________
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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From: LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 14:45:31 -0800
Subject: Re: 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     So, what system are you using?
     

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: 
Author:  Non-HP-Kar-On-Chan (Kar-On_Chan@brown.edu) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
Date:    11/14/96 1:00 PM

Dear guys,
can anyone tell me a easier way to downlaod the pictures from the net to be 
my wallpaper. I am a compu idiot. LMK's method is too complicated, I don't 
even know what he tells me to do. As for the other suggestion, I am not 
using win3.1 and when I click the right mouse button, I cannot find the "set 
as wallpaper" option...
THANX
on on
______________________________________
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
                                U_U                      
        ^_^                 |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:51:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Subject: Madonna?!!
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

Greetings 'e People!

I really don't wanna sound mean or anything, but I opened my mailbox 
today to find several messages concerning Madonna--I thought this was the 'e 
list??  Sure, Mads is cool(fav song:Take a Bow) but I'd really like to hear 
info on 'e ; it *is* the main reason why I joined the list......Maybe u guys
could email to direct personal addresses 'stead of posting it up for all 
members of the 'e list?

Just a suggestion--thanks!

 
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
 ________________________________________________________________________

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From: LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 15:17:57 -0800
Subject: Re: Madonna?!!
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     I totally agree.

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Madonna?!!
Author:  Non-HP-sjl (sjl@vcn.bc.ca) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
Date:    11/14/96 1:51 PM

Greetings 'e People!
     
I really don't wanna sound mean or anything, but I opened my mailbox 
today to find several messages concerning Madonna--I thought this was the 'e 
list??  Sure, Mads is cool(fav song:Take a Bow) but I'd really like to hear 
info on 'e ; it *is* the main reason why I joined the list......Maybe u guys 
could email to direct personal addresses 'stead of posting it up for all 
members of the 'e list?
     
Just a suggestion--thanks!
     
     
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
 ________________________________________________________________________

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Date: 	Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:38:20 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu wrote:
> 
> Hi Jo Jo,
> 
> So where are you from?  Canada?  How long you've been there?  Can you still
> read and speak in Cantonese?
> 
> Bonnie
> (Since two people have asked you already, somehow it got me started, ha, ha)
> 
> At 04:36 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
> >tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi! Jo Jo:
> >>   What about your name "Jo Jo"? You got this name from the Japanese comic
> >> named 'Jo Jo - The amazing adventure.' Have you heard this comic?
> >>
> >>                                                             Tom
> >
> >No!  Never heard of that either!  That's just my nickname - what
> >everybody calls me.  Japanese comics?  I don't know any, but I love
> >Arale-chan (Dr. Slump).  And I'm learning japanese and loving it!
> >
> >Jo Jo
> >--
> >* My Secret Garden *

Well, um... yes, Canada -- specifically Vancouver... almost 7 years ... 
fluent in Cantonese, Mandarin, French, Japanese, and learning Spanish...
the bottom line is: Shirley's my favorite

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *


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Date: 	Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:41:49 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: MUST READ (no ms)

I don't know if this applies outside Canada though; it's just an e-mail 
I received from a friend.

Jo Jo

> If anyone calls you at home and asks if you'd like to get Corel Suite
> for free it may be best to tell them you don't have a computer.
> One of our guys here just got robbed after agreeing to participate in
> "Corel's" give away.  He was kind enough to tell them, over the phone,
> what kind of computer he had and when he would be home (and therefore
> when he wasn't) so he could receive his package. They cleaned him out
> the next day.-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: 	Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:46:04 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

Hi! Anna? (What should I call you? 'On On', 'Anna' or 'Kar-on')
 Yes, I do like anime too. But I prefer comic than animation. Do you read 
comic too? I didn't heard this anime. Can you tell me a little bit more 
about this anime? May be I know this anime, but I'm not sure. 
  Where is the Hecto Fansub exactly? What is 'BTW' means? 
  
Tom
Toronto    

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, On On/Anna/Kar-On wrote:

> >At 04:36 PM 11/13/96 -0800, TOM wrote:
> >>tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:
> >>> Hi! Jo Jo:
> >>>   What about your name "Jo Jo"? You got this name from the Japanese comic
> >>> named 'Jo Jo - The amazing adventure.' Have you heard this comic?
> >>>                                                             Tom
> 
> Hi Tom, do you like anime too? I love anime. My most recent favorite is the
> "Vision (Sky rather) of Escaflowne". Ever heard of it? It is available from
> Hecto fansub... Where are you BTW?
> Love, on on
> ____________________________________
> Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
> you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
> Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
> someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
> Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
> 			        U_U			 
> 	^_^	            |  I>o 		           /|    |    |\	   
> 		          / |    |    | \
> 		          \ \___/ \___/ />>>>>>>
> 
> 

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Date: 	Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:46:19 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu wrote:
> 
> Jo Jo,
> 
> I'm also a big fan of Madonna's.  I have all of her albums.  I like that
> "Bedtime Stories" very much, especially "Forbidden Love".
> 
> Bonnie

again, I don't want to talk too much about other singers, but me too -- 
I have all Madonna's albums and singles and videos and everything...
By the way, I think it was in 1986 that Shirley joins the singing 
competition in Hong Kong (same year as the Grasshoppers) and sang one of 
Madonna's songs ( I can't remember which one).  Does anyone know?  
Shirley had really short hair then too.

Jo Jo

--
* My Secret Garden *

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From: LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 15:59:43 -0800
Subject: Re: MUST READ (no ms)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     The story I heard was in US and is not next day.  They asked the guy 
     when he was available at home so when he was not home.  So when he was 
     not home, they went in and cleaned him out.

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: MUST READ (no ms)
Author:  Non-HP-jvyee (jvyee@direct.ca) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
Date:    11/14/96 2:41 PM

I don't know if this applies outside Canada though; it's just an e-mail 
I received from a friend.
     
Jo Jo
     
> If anyone calls you at home and asks if you'd like to get Corel Suite 
> for free it may be best to tell them you don't have a computer.
> One of our guys here just got robbed after agreeing to participate in 
> "Corel's" give away.  He was kind enough to tell them, over the phone, 
> what kind of computer he had and when he would be home (and therefore 
> when he wasn't) so he could receive his package. They cleaned him out 
> the next day.-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: 	Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:02:13 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Sorry to talk about other singers!

Return wrote:
> 
> Wei Shirleylist:

> Anyhow, someone mentioned whether or not Shirley'slack of releasing CDs
> lately is a "plausible reason" for not liking her as much as I used
> to...well, sure it is!  Like a baby who is parted from his/her favourite
> blanket, he/she will find another blanket to take its place...feeling this
> way about Shirley is only natural....  I know that Shirley isn't the one
> to blame, because it is those GREEDY bastards at PolyGram, wanting to ruin
> Shirley's career!....argh... It jsut seems that the new Shirley CD will
> never come and I 'm starting to give up!...argh....

PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP HOPE!  WE'RE ALL WAITING WITH YOU!!!
 
> I agree that we shouldn't "flame" singers on this list....however if we
> should flame any singer, at least give validation...not just "she can't
> sing"....  Someone also stated that they didn't like Kelly's
> "falsetto"....and didn't understand why she uses "falsetto".....well
> that's the style now and you've gotta stay in trend....it's called the
> "90's female" sound....lots of acoustic in the background while the lead
> singer, a female, uses her falsetto, making numerous octave jumps
> throughout the song...eg. Faye Wong, Amanda Lee, Kelly Chen, Mavis Hee,
> Kit Chan  and now Linda Wong...

I'm not trying to talk about other singers again, but in general, I realize the beauty 
of the "falsetto" (if that's what you call it, I don't know the proper name).  I hope 
you realize that I'm not against it or anything, my point is that -- in my opinion -- 
Kelly Chen overdoes it, and doesn't do it well.  For example, Faye Wong and Kit Chan 
do that perfectly.  BTW, I think Amanda Lee sort of copies Shirley's style of singing. 
Again, please correct me if you disagree.
 
> 
> Will . .
>       U

Yours truly,
Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:10:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Phan Ngoc Dung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: your mail

have faith. i just listen to her oldies, the unknown ones, and have found 
them quite pleasing. these are the lost tracks.

phan d.
 

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Return wrote:

> Wei Shirleylist:
> 
> Sorry for starting such a mess about Kelly Chen....but I do like her very
> much...and I think she is GORGEOUS and talented....
> 
> Anyhow, someone mentioned whether or not Shirley'slack of releasing CDs
> lately is a "plausible reason" for not liking her as much as I used
> to...well, sure it is!  Like a baby who is parted from his/her favourite
> blanket, he/she will find another blanket to take its place...feeling this
> way about Shirley is only natural....  I know that Shirley isn't the one
> to blame, because it is those GREEDY bastards at PolyGram, wanting to ruin
> Shirley's career!....argh... It jsut seems that the new Shirley CD will
> never come and I 'm starting to give up!...argh....
> 
> I agree that we shouldn't "flame" singers on this list....however if we
> should flame any singer, at least give validation...not just "she can't
> sing"....  Someone also stated that they didn't like Kelly's
> "falsetto"....and didn't understand why she uses "falsetto".....well
> that's the style now and you've gotta stay in trend....it's called the
> "90's female" sound....lots of acoustic in the background while the lead
> singer, a female, uses her falsetto, making numerous octave jumps
> throughout the song...eg. Faye Wong, Amanda Lee, Kelly Chen, Mavis Hee,
> Kit Chan  and now Linda Wong...  
> 
> Anyways, in regard to Shirley, I think that Shirley is "one of the best
> harmonizers" in HK, agreeing with Anthony Wong....one of the reasons why I
> love Shirley sooo mcuh is that she has a unique sense of harmony....and a
> great sense of rhythm....eg.  Forget Him:  the background vocals are
> amazing!  and same for "Blessed Maria"...Shirley thought of that
> background vocals herself!....
> 
> Re: Talking to Myself....I don't think Sheryl Crow wrote the song for
> Shirley....I think that Shirley just covered the song...and that the
> arrangement from the english version is different....I remember Shirley
> saying that she played around with the song to make it more suitable for
> an HK audience....
> 
> Will . .
>       U
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:10:09 +0800 (HKT)
From: Tong Lai Yin 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: VCD

POLYGRAM HAS FINALLY RELEASED AN OFFICIAL MTV VCD OF SHIRLEY.IT HAS 15 
SONGS.TEN CAN BE FOUND IN THE MTV LD9OUT OF THE 15 SONGS THERE,5 ARE 
MISSING!) AND THE OTHER FIVE INCLUDE 
  FORGET HIM
  ANY REAL FRIENDS IN LIFE
  BYGONE LEGEND
  CONFUSED
  (ONE MORE,I FORGOT)
I SAW THE AD, ON THE PAPER YESTERDAY.I AM GRABBING IT TODAY.
BE QUICK TO GET IT!

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:11:53 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna 
Subject: Falsetto/ fake voice

With regards to the popular "falsetto", pls share my opinion:
1. Kelly Chan: I think she is too raw & new. Potential, but not       now.
Her voice is too thin. But she has the conditions to be a     future pop
queen...
2. Amanda Lee: She is ok. I think her voice quality in high notes
fluctuate quite a bit. There is a danger she falls in b/t          singing
and shouting and sometimes a slight lack of control        and thus her
voice coming out of her throat rather than         diaphragm i.e. ҾC 
3. Faye Wong: She has a beautiful voice. But yet, she has the         danger
of fluctuating performance. Maybe her "mood" affects         her too much...
4. Kit Chan: I adore her. She is a messo-alto, I think. She has
strong and powerful voice. Good singing base, but I think         she can
master her real voice much more better than the         "falsetto". Has
anyone of you listened to her new album         "hurted heart"ۧH Song
track 8 "Date" |HNice attempt, but it sounds difficult of her to slide
quickly from real voice to fake    voice... But she is still great. She is
only 22. There is         long way to go. She starts of better then others,
too.         Cool.
5. Mavis Hee: She is new cute and have a good singing base.
Potential... But I have not been exposed to her much...
6. Linda Wong: She cannot sing! There is no support from the  stomach. Her
voice is too thin. This is a typical example         of "chicken voice"
垴Jn. She still needs a lot of         practice.
7. KWan Suke e: Lo and behold, I still think shirley is the best, though I
do like some of the singers mentioned above...

Put it simple, she has a special way of touching my heart. When she is doing
the acoustic "unplugged" stuff, (not the time she is doing harmony), she has
this sandy "sa sa di"FF texture in voice, adding a french sentiment in.
Really moving. BTW, does anyone knows she covered quite a # of french songs
in her previous albums? And all from the same french album. Jo Jo might know
it, since she study french. I cannot speak french but my sister studies it.
She has bought a few french cd, and by chance, we came across this...

It is the previous album by Elsa in around 1992 (quite a while ago), she is
a very popular and prestigious singer in france, I suppose. Every one knows
her. Anyways, Shirley got quite a # of songs from that single album:
-- "Fake Love" ӻR 
-- "Under the star light..."ЋePU
-- "Untied Kite" ۣuἌ
-- "Calm light" R@O
You may want to check it out. I did not know it either, until "Fake Love"
was out. Then my sis intro. me to Elsa and I started to listen to her.
Though I have no idea what Elsa is singing, she has a beautiful voice. The
best thing about Shirley is: she did not really copy out from Elsa. I was so
afraid that she wld just copy Elsa's singing technique but in "Under the
star light..."ЋePU, Shirley proves that she is so much more than a
plagarist. She has her own style... ^_^ I esp. like the melody of track 7
>from that Elsa CD, too bad Shirley did not cover it... I was sorta waiting
for it, after "Fake Love" & "Under the starlight"... But well, I still have
hope in her upcoming album. I am turning into a giraffe (long neck) .......
>from too much waiting.
Later...

Love, on on

PS Did I give validated support to my arguements? ^_^
________________________________________________________
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:30:43 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Fumi 
Subject: Re: wallpaper

Um..what are you using? Netscape? I'm using Netscape 3.0 and I just click
the right mouse button to set wall paper. :) I guess win3.1 is not a
problem, because I'm using win3.1 too! :)

At 05:00 PM 11/14/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear guys,
>can anyone tell me a easier way to downlaod the pictures from the net to be
>my wallpaper. I am a compu idiot. LMK's method is too complicated, I don't
>even know what he tells me to do. As for the other suggestion, I am not
>using win3.1 and when I click the right mouse button, I cannot find the "set
>as wallpaper" option...
>THANX
>on on

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:54:42 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna 
Subject: Re: VCD

Thanx Tony for the news is most precious to int'l students like ME, I
assume, that is really good news, but I bet you cannot get hold of it yet!
They usually set out the ad first, but the actuall product won't appear in
the market until much later... I wonder if this is a sign that Shirley is
resigning contract w/ our good old Polygram... ^_^
Many cheers
Love, on on

At 10:10 AM 11/15/96 +0800, Tony wrote:
>POLYGRAM HAS FINALLY RELEASED AN OFFICIAL MTV VCD OF SHIRLEY.IT HAS 15 
>SONGS.TEN CAN BE FOUND IN THE MTV LD9OUT OF THE 15 SONGS THERE,5 ARE 
>MISSING!) AND THE OTHER FIVE INCLUDE 
>  FORGET HIM
>  ANY REAL FRIENDS IN LIFE
>  BYGONE LEGEND
>  CONFUSED
>  (ONE MORE,I FORGOT)
>I SAW THE AD, ON THE PAPER YESTERDAY.I AM GRABBING IT TODAY.
>BE QUICK TO GET IT!
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:10:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Subject: Re: your mail
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, On On/Anna/Kar-On wrote:

> I do not think the 2 Shes know one another personally. Most probably, I
> suspect Joseph Ip just ask the famous singer-song-writer to write him
> several songs and he just split it b/t Shirley & "wut dut" Alan Tam...
                                                       
                                                        
Uh-oh...Some people are gonna be pissed with this one.  I thought that we 
agreed not to flame other artists ???

I rest my case...
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
 ________________________________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:39:32 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna 
Subject: Re: your mail

At 07:10 PM 11/14/96 -0800, Sarah wrote:
>> I do not think the 2 Shes know one another personally. Most probably, I
>> suspect Joseph Ip just ask the famous singer-song-writer to write him
>> several songs and he just split it b/t Shirley & "wut dut" Alan Tam...  
>
>Uh-oh...Some people are gonna be pissed with this one.  I thought that we 
>agreed not to flame other artists ???
>I rest my case...
 
OK, I withdraw the "wut dut". I cannot deny that he did make some
contribution to the HK entertainment field. He has good singing techniques.
Some songs of him are nice. In fact "who can change it?", theme from old TV
series "tin si tsup wai" ۄvϓ , is one of my favorite. And he sang "will
you love me tomorrow" w/ Shirley". But whenever I think of his song "proud
bone" (Oh gwut)and others too, it just gives me the chills. And the notion
of "25 yr old every yr" is a bit too hypocritical to me (this is not flame
is it? it is rather a Q of attitude, right?)... 

Later...

on on
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 96 23:29:54 -0500
From: "Bulldog's Better Half" 

-- [ From: Bulldog's Better Half * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

If you are using Netscape, I think the easiest way is to click your right
mouse button on a JPEG image in 'e space and select "Set as wallpaper".
Netscape will automatically save the image file as "netscape.bmp" under its
directory by default, and change your wallpaper at once. You don't even need
to go to Control Panel. The disadvantage of this is that if you select
another image as wallpaper, you will lose your previous one because Netscape
will overwrite the previous "netscape.bmp" file. Therefore, it's better to
save the previous Shirley bmp file under another name before you repeat the
procedure. 

I am not a computer expert and I am still using Win 3.1. But I have done
that for many times and find it very convenient and efficient. You can see
the result immediately and if you don't like it, just click another image,
and VIOLA! another Shirley wallpaper. 

Regards, 
mimi

-------- REPLY, Original message follows --------

> Date: Thursday, 14-Nov-96 05:20 PM
> 
> From: LMK                      \ Internet:    (lmk@moon.csc.cuhk.edu.hk)
> To:   Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list \ Internet:   
> (shirley-list@hookup.net)
> 
> Subject: Re: Infor regarding Shirley.
> 
> > Request: Does anyone have a good wallpaper of Shirley for Win 95? If so,
> > could you e-mail it to me???
> 
> you can simply convert the JPEG images downloaded from 'e space to BMP and
set
> it as wallpaper. 
> 
> 
> [LMK :P]
> 
>  < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL:lmk@moon.csc.cuhk.edu.
hk >
> 
> 
> 

-------- REPLY, End of original message --------


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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:02:02 -0800 (PST)
From: jayhsu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: your mail

hey all, with regards to this "don't talk about other artists" stuff, isn't
this an open forum?  I mean, it would get pretty boring just reading
messages saying "when is Shirley's new album coming out?" etc.  As long as
it relates to shirley somehow, right?

Personally, i didn't really know Kelly Chen well, but after all this talk,
i went out and bought her cd which turned out to be really good (albeit
short).  Some of the songs are stylistically similar to Shirley's songs,
but *of course* not as well executed in the vocals.  Oh well, i guess
they'll do until Shirley's album comes... much better than the average
cantopop stuff.  btw, anyone know how good Linda's new cd is?

Jay "no-flames-let's-all-be-friends" Hsu

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Sara Leung wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, On On/Anna/Kar-On wrote:
> 
> > I do not think the 2 Shes know one another personally. Most probably, I
> > suspect Joseph Ip just ask the famous singer-song-writer to write him
> > several songs and he just split it b/t Shirley & "wut dut" Alan Tam...
>                                                        
>                                                         
> Uh-oh...Some people are gonna be pissed with this one.  I thought that we 
> agreed not to flame other artists ???
> 
> I rest my case...
>   _______________________________________    
>  |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
>  |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
>  |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
>  |____     |         |         |         |  
>  |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
>  |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
>  "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
>                        the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
>  ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> 

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:40:31 +0800
From: TONG 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: VCD

On On/Anna wrote:
> 
> Thanx Tony for the news is most precious to int'l students like ME, I
> assume, that is really good news, but I bet you cannot get hold of it yet!
> They usually set out the ad first, but the actuall product won't appear in
> the market until much later... I wonder if this is a sign that Shirley is
> resigning contract w/ our good old Polygram... ^_^
>

I'm happy to tell you that the VCd is relesed and you can buy it at
around $60.Get it!

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:54:40 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: your mail

USC is University of Southern California.  Yes, I go to this school.  I'm
a junior.

Bonnie

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, On On/Anna/Kar-On wrote:

> At 10:34 AM 11/14/96 -0800, Bonnie wrote:
> >If Sheryl really wrote the song especially for Shireley, I wonder how she
> >came to know about Shirley, that must be interesting.
> 
> I do not think the 2 Shes know one another personally. Most probably, I
> suspect Joseph Ip just ask the famous singer-song-writer to write him
> several songs and he just split it b/t Shirley & "wut dut" Alan Tam...
> 
> BTW, what does USC stands for? That is the school you are from, right?
> LOVE, on on
> ____________________________________
> Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
> you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
> Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
> someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
> Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
> 			        U_U			 
> 	^_^	            |  I>o 		           /|    |    |\	   
> 		          / |    |    | \
> 		          \ \___/ \___/ />>>>>>>
> 
> 

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:59:43 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Jap Albums

Hi everyone,

I think talking about some other stuff sometimes couldn't hurt.  (Just an
opinion)

Bonnie

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Jo Jo wrote:

> bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu wrote:
> > 
> > Jo Jo,
> > 
> > I'm also a big fan of Madonna's.  I have all of her albums.  I like that
> > "Bedtime Stories" very much, especially "Forbidden Love".
> > 
> > Bonnie
> 
> again, I don't want to talk too much about other singers, but me too -- 
> I have all Madonna's albums and singles and videos and everything...
> By the way, I think it was in 1986 that Shirley joins the singing 
> competition in Hong Kong (same year as the Grasshoppers) and sang one of 
> Madonna's songs ( I can't remember which one).  Does anyone know?  
> Shirley had really short hair then too.
> 
> Jo Jo
> 
> --
> * My Secret Garden *
> 
> 

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Date: 	Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:13:43 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Talking about other singers

I guess you can't just talk about Shirley and restrain on not talking 
about anyone else at all, i mean, it's impossible.  Just don't overdo 
it; mentioning or a few comments is fine.  That's my opinion, any 
others?

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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From: LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 96 16:23:44 -0800
Subject: Re: Talking about other singers
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     I think it is good to talk about someone or something than have 
     nothing to talk.

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Talking about other singers
Author:  Non-HP-jvyee (jvyee@direct.ca) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
Date:    11/15/96 3:13 PM

I guess you can't just talk about Shirley and restrain on not talking 
about anyone else at all, i mean, it's impossible.  Just don't overdo 
it; mentioning or a few comments is fine.  That's my opinion, any 
others?
     
Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:44:37 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Who?

Who's Mavis Hee?

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:38:46 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: MingPao!

Hey!  I'm reading the MingPao on the net and see news about Shirley!  So 
buy the Sat 96/11/16 newspaper!

Jo Jo

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:55:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Sender: Sara Leung 
Subject: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

On Fri Nov 15 1996 20:40:52 -0800, Will Wong wrote:

>...don't tell people what they can't or can't say.None of us have the 
power or the right to tell people what to do or what to say!"

Then,on Fri Nov 15 1996 20:52:31 -0800,Will Wong wrote:

>...don't waste our time by sending these emails."

Ya gotta make up your mind at some point,Will!!

 
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
 ________________________________________________________________________


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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:16:50 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Jo Jo wrote:

> Hey!  I'm reading the MingPao on the net and see news about Shirley!  So 
> buy the Sat 96/11/16 newspaper!

Or see this page :
http://www.mingpao.com/newspaper/961116/ma615.htm

[LMK :P]

 < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL:lmk@moon.csc.cuhk.edu.hk >


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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:14:47 +0800 (HKT)
From: Mr Forest Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: VCD

Like from where?  did not see it at Shun Wo (Mongkok.)

wld be great if you could tell us.

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:18:16 +0800 (HKT)
From: Mr Forest Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re:  STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!

Nice Sara.

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:40:52 -0800
From: Wil Wong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Bitchin' Email

Wei An-An:

First of all, I think that we're all getting too carried away with 
restricting speech on the list...
gosh, if you have something to say, just say it!  Don't tell people what 
they can or can't say!
None of us have the power or the right to tell people what to or what not 
to say!

>1. Kelly Chan: I think she is too raw & new. Potential, but not       now.
>Her voice is too thin. But she has the conditions to be a     future pop
>queen...WW:  Yeah Yeah Yeah!..hehe...  I have a question....will there still be 
such a thing as 
"Queens and Kings of Music" and award ceremonies fot best artist, etc. 
after communist rule?
I know there won't ever be another Ms. HK after 97, what about in music?

>2. Amanda Lee: She is ok. I think her voice quality in high notes
>fluctuate quite a bit. There is a danger she falls in b/t          singing
>and shouting and sometimes a slight lack of control        and thus her
>voice coming out of her throat rather than         diaphragm i.e. ҾC WW: Hmmm..... I agree with the notion that Amanda sounds at times, TOO 
SIMILAR to 
Shirley....they seem to both have that same rough texture in their voices 
and push from
the same areas when they sing....  strange eh?  Have you guys listened to 
the Karen Mok
Mun Wai CD?  She sounds quite similar to Shirley too...it's 
scary!...hehe...I think Amanda's
biggest downfall is that her voice doesn't suit the "band sound"...her 
voice is too delicate, thus
when she sings "rock" songs, it sounds like she's screaming....

>3. Faye Wong: She has a beautiful voice. But yet, she has the         danger
>of fluctuating performance. Maybe her "mood" affects         her too much...
WW: Still don't believe that she's having a baby with DOU WEI....  
hmmm....
It seems that Shirley and Faye aren't really communicating much lately as 
much as 
they used to...wonder what happened....

>6. Linda Wong: She cannot sing! There is no support from the  stomach. Her
>voice is too thin. This is a typical example         of "chicken voice"
>垴Jn. She still needs a lot of         practice.WW: Well, it's being a little too harsh to say that she "cannot 
sing!"....her voice is not 
all that bad....I don't like how she tries to use Western techniques like 
"slides" which are
found in R&B, when it doesn't sound good when "thin voices" use it....
it's just that she's getting the worst songs from PolyGram lately...I 
think
it's time for her to leave too!

JASON!  Hi there!  So you like the Kelly CD too?  Cool!  It is good isn't 
it?...hehe..
umm. don't bother with the new Linda CD...there's only one good song in 
the CD...
the first track...I don't think I have enough patience to "get into" this 
CD....
The decoration of the CD is nice though!....  Linda experiments with the 
"90's female
sound" too in this CD....

>7. KWan Suke e: Lo and behold, I still think shirley is the best, though I
>do like some of the singers mentioned above...WW: Yeah, Shirley is definitely one of my "ALL TIME FAVOURITES"....even 
my mom 
likes her.....and my mom is a big cynic when it comes to "newer 
artists"....I hope with all 
my heart that she leaves PolyGram now!  Rub it into their faces, SHIRLEY! 
 Show them what
they CAN'T have!...haha!...

>PS Did I give validated support to my arguements? ^_^WW: Of course, An-An!  Good job...I enjoyed readin your analyses very 
very much! 

Faithy: What a cute name!  Thanks for supporting me!....hehe.....

Will .   .
        U

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:52:31 -0800
From: Wil Wong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

Wei Shirley-list:

Sorry to be rude (AGAIN!).....I think some people are wasting other's 
time by making them download e-mails with like 1 sentence replies...I 
opened my mailbox and must have had to sort through at least 20 one 
sentence e-mails?  Why do you guys bother?!?!?!!   Please be considerate
and if you have nothing important to contribute besides from "Yeah, I 
agree".....don't waste our time sending out these type of mail!...I know 
this contradicts what I said earlier about "saying whatever you want", 
but this is a special circumstance in that, it is the best interest of a 
majority of the Shirleylisters....

Will . .
      U

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:26:25 +0800
From: TONG 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: VCD

The Vcd is one of the series of the Polygram Star MTV VCDs!And others in
the series include Karen Tong and Vivian Lai.I got it from 188!

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:34:00 -0800
From: Return 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: (no subject)

Wei Sara and Shirleyfriends:

>...don't tell people what they can't or can't say.None of us have the power or the right to tell people what to do or what to say!"

Then,on Fri Nov 15 1996 20:52:31 -0800,Will Wong wrote:

>...don't waste our time by sending these emails."

Ya gotta make up your mind at some point,Will!!
WW: Hi there....yeah, if you re-read the statement below I made in the 
previous e-mail:

>Please be considerate
>and if you have nothing important to contribute besides from "Yeah, I 
>agree".....don't waste our time sending out these type of mail!...WW: I think that should make it clear, and in sending such a LENGTHY 
INFORMATIVE response (yes I am being sarcastic), I had to check ANOTHER 
pointless one-line e-mail...
comprende?  What I am saying is that "one line, pointless e-mails" are 
nothing but clutter in the mailbox and a waste of time to download....I 
am not pointing the blame at any one individual, but it is, in 
particular, 3-5 individuals on this list who do this and it is 
ANNOYING.....

BTW, In response to JoJo's question: Mavis Hee is a singer from Singapore 
named Hui Mei Jing, or in mandarin, Xu Mei Jing.....she is extremely 
popular in Taiwan and Singapore at the moment....she recently won a media 
award in Singapore...she has similar facial and vocal features to Faye 
Wong....  She has released 2 CDs so far....

Re: the individual who keeps saying that Kelly Chen news should be 
discussed on her list, well, there is no such thing as a Kelly Chen 
mailing list.

Will . .
      U

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 07:32:56 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

Hi Will,

I don't think that's such an inconvenience; I also don't think that a
majority of the listed people would think that way.  So if these emails
bother you so much, withdraw from the list.

Bonnie

On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Wil Wong wrote:

> Wei Shirley-list:
> 
> Sorry to be rude (AGAIN!).....I think some people are wasting other's 
> time by making them download e-mails with like 1 sentence replies...I 
> opened my mailbox and must have had to sort through at least 20 one 
> sentence e-mails?  Why do you guys bother?!?!?!!   Please be considerate
> and if you have nothing important to contribute besides from "Yeah, I 
> agree".....don't waste our time sending out these type of mail!...I know 
> this contradicts what I said earlier about "saying whatever you want", 
> but this is a special circumstance in that, it is the best interest of a 
> majority of the Shirleylisters....
> 
> Will . .
>       U
> 

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 07:37:57 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Hi Will,

So you think those one-sentence-only emails are not "important
contributions"  ( sentence like : "Yeah, I agree.")  ?  You are wrong.
Sometimes it's good to know that there's
somebody who'd agree with you.  

Bonnie

On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Return wrote:

> Wei Sara and Shirleyfriends:
> 
> >...don't tell people what they can't or can't say.None of us have the power or the right to tell people what to do or what to say!"
> 
> Then,on Fri Nov 15 1996 20:52:31 -0800,Will Wong wrote:
> 
> >...don't waste our time by sending these emails."
> 
> Ya gotta make up your mind at some point,Will!!
> WW: Hi there....yeah, if you re-read the statement below I made in the 
> previous e-mail:
> 
> >Please be considerate
> >and if you have nothing important to contribute besides from "Yeah, I 
> >agree".....don't waste our time sending out these type of mail!...WW: I think that should make it clear, and in sending such a LENGTHY 
> INFORMATIVE response (yes I am being sarcastic), I had to check ANOTHER 
> pointless one-line e-mail...
> comprende?  What I am saying is that "one line, pointless e-mails" are 
> nothing but clutter in the mailbox and a waste of time to download....I 
> am not pointing the blame at any one individual, but it is, in 
> particular, 3-5 individuals on this list who do this and it is 
> ANNOYING.....
> 
> BTW, In response to JoJo's question: Mavis Hee is a singer from Singapore 
> named Hui Mei Jing, or in mandarin, Xu Mei Jing.....she is extremely 
> popular in Taiwan and Singapore at the moment....she recently won a media 
> award in Singapore...she has similar facial and vocal features to Faye 
> Wong....  She has released 2 CDs so far....
> 
> Re: the individual who keeps saying that Kelly Chen news should be 
> discussed on her list, well, there is no such thing as a Kelly Chen 
> mailing list.
> 
> Will . .
>       U
> 

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  (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:53:00 -0400
    16 Nov 96 15:53:00 +0400
From: "Vanessa Kam" <013950K@axe.acadiau.ca>
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:52:40 AST4ADT
Subject: Re: MingPao!

> Date:          Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:16:50 +0800 (HKT)
> From:          LMK 
> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
> Subject:       Re: MingPao!
> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net

> On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Jo Jo wrote:
> 
> > Hey!  I'm reading the MingPao on the net and see news about Shirley!  So 
> > buy the Sat 96/11/16 newspaper!
> 
> Or see this page :
> http://www.mingpao.com/newspaper/961116/ma615.htm
> 

How can I read the Chinese wordings from netscape??????? 

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:59:04 +0800 (HKT)
From: Mr Forest Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

I agree with Bonnie cuz' it's not like you don't have a choice.

As a constructive suggestion, a simple parser may be the solution

to the 'one line email' problem (for those who consider it a problem)

simply cuts out the embedded msgs before reading it; better if only

one line is left you skip and don't read it.

This list is a million times better than the average news group already,

there seems to be lots of respect and courtesy in everybody's msgs.

---------------------------

BTW how much does the VCD cost?

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 01:19:10 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Simon Leung 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

At 12:59 AM 11/17/1996 +0800, Mr Forest Fong wrote:

>BTW how much does the VCD cost?
>
I bought one from the 298 Computer Mall in Wanchai (I am not very sure the
name) and it costs me HK$80.  The disk is great, every Shirley's fans should
get one ASAP.

******************************************
SIMON LEUNG of Saint Joseph's College (HK)

E-mail:	scmleung@asiaonline.net
Phone:	(852) 2565-8960
Pager:	(852) 7200-2922
******************************************

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:17:27 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

Yes, this is a already pretty good and enjoyable newsgroup.  WAY TO GO!

I saw that most of the VCDs here in Los Angeles are cheaper than the CDs,
like $12 to $14.

Bonnie

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Mr Forest Fong wrote:

> I agree with Bonnie cuz' it's not like you don't have a choice.
> 
> As a constructive suggestion, a simple parser may be the solution
> 
> to the 'one line email' problem (for those who consider it a problem)
> 
> simply cuts out the embedded msgs before reading it; better if only
> 
> one line is left you skip and don't read it.
> 
> This list is a million times better than the average news group already,
> 
> there seems to be lots of respect and courtesy in everybody's msgs.
> 
> ---------------------------
> 
> BTW how much does the VCD cost?
> 
> 

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:33:31 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

At 3:52 PM +0000 11/16/96, Vanessa Kam wrote:

>> Or see this page :
>> http://www.mingpao.com/newspaper/961116/ma615.htm
>>
>
>How can I read the Chinese wordings from netscape???????

Which platform do you use?

Keith


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Date: 	Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:44:22 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

  Hi! Bonnieyu,

  I agree with you, Bonnie. What's wrong with the one sentence replies?
  If you don't want to read the short message, just delete it right away.
  What is the problem? 
  
  Tom

On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, bonnieyu wrote:

> Hi Will,
> 
> I don't think that's such an inconvenience; I also don't think that a
> majority of the listed people would think that way.  So if these emails
> bother you so much, withdraw from the list.
> 
> Bonnie
> 
> On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Wil Wong wrote:
> 
> > Wei Shirley-list:
> > 
> > Sorry to be rude (AGAIN!).....I think some people are wasting other's 
> > time by making them download e-mails with like 1 sentence replies...I 
> > opened my mailbox and must have had to sort through at least 20 one 
> > sentence e-mails?  Why do you guys bother?!?!?!!   Please be considerate
> > and if you have nothing important to contribute besides from "Yeah, I 
> > agree".....don't waste our time sending out these type of mail!...I know 
> > this contradicts what I said earlier about "saying whatever you want", 
> > but this is a special circumstance in that, it is the best interest of a 
> > majority of the Shirleylisters....
> > 
> > Will . .
> >       U
> > 
> 
> 

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Date: 	Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:20:28 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Shirley's fans club

Recently, I bought a CD. It was included an application form of her fans 
club. At that time, I am thinking that does Shirley has a fans club too?
I mean an actual fans club, not the one on net. It is like, it will hold 
an annual meeting or mini-concert, Shirley will shows up and sings. So, the 
fans of Shirley can meet together and talk to Shirley face to face. 
Perhaps we can take a picture with her. I always dream that I can take a 
picture with her. Then post it on the wall.

Tom
Nov. 16

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:40:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Sender: Sara Leung 
Subject: Re: Shirley's fans club
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

Greetings 'e People!

On Sat, 16 Nov 1996 tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:

> Recently, I bought a CD. It was included an application form of her fans 
> club. At that time, I am thinking that does Shirley has a fans club too?
> I mean an actual fans club, not the one on net. It is like, it will hold 
> an annual meeting or mini-concert, Shirley will shows up and sings. So, the 
> fans of Shirley can meet together and talk to Shirley face to face. 
> Perhaps we can take a picture with her. I always dream that I can take a 
> picture with her. Then post it on the wall.
> 
> Tom
> Nov. 16
> 
Wow!!! Does this *really* mean that 'e has an official fanclub?? When I 
bought "Story of Shirley",there was a fan club application form there--I 
wrote and no one replied!!Then I wrote to Polygram(courtesy of the 
address found in Shirley's '95 diary)and still there was no reply!!
Which cd did u buy???

And about taking a pic with 'e,I was lucky enough to snap one when she 
came for a charity show (Mount Saint J's Hosp)a few years back.:)..Has 
anyone else ever met 'e in real life,spoken to 'e, etc??

On the topic:is anybody interested in a Canadian gathering of all 'e's 
fans??We could get together, swap stuff, etc--we might even get Shirley 
to come(yeah right--but hey,I'm allowed to dream,right??!)or, even 
better:a  gathering of all her Vancouver based 'e followers!!!
but, of course,most unlikely--but pls would some one give some feedback!!! 

Oh, and to Bonnie, Forest,tom etc..:Totalllly agreeeeee!!!!

OK,later, 'e People!
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
 ________________________________________________________________________


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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:47:57 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: (no subject)

bonnieyu wrote:
> Sometimes it's good to know that there's somebody who'd agree with you.
> 
> Bonnie

Now, that -- I agree!

Jo Jo

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:50:21 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

bonnieyu wrote:
> 
> I saw that most of the VCDs here in Los Angeles are cheaper than the CDs, like $12 to $14.
> 
> Bonnie
> Oh Bonnie, I envy you!  You live in Los Angeles?  I'd love to go to a 
big city like that!

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:53:57 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's fans club

Sara Leung wrote:
> 
> 
> On the topic:is anybody interested in a Canadian gathering of all 'e's
> fans??We could get together, swap stuff, etc--we might even get Shirley
> to come(yeah right--but hey,I'm allowed to dream,right??!)or, even
> better:a  gathering of all her Vancouver based 'e followers!!!
> but, of course,most unlikely--but pls would some one give some feedback!!!
> 

I guess that would be kinda neat, Sara.  I live in Vancouver too. Any 
others?

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:07:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Sender: Sara Leung 
Subject: Re: your mail
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

Greetings 'e People:

On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Will Wong wrote:
> Wei Shirleylist:
> 
> Sorry for starting such a mess about Kelly Chen....but I do like her very
> much...and I think she is GORGEOUS and talented....
> 
> Anyhow, someone mentioned whether or not Shirley'slack of releasing CDs
> lately is a "plausible reason" for not liking her as much as I used
> to...well, sure it is!  Like a baby who is parted from his/her favourite
> blanket, he/she will find another blanket to take its place...feeling this
> way about Shirley is only natural....  I know that Shirley isn't the one
> to blame, because it is those GREEDY bastards at PolyGram, wanting to ruin
> Shirley's career!....argh... It jsut seems that the new Shirley CD will
> never come and I 'm starting to give up!...argh....

*****Sara:Well,I don't think that the majority of us 'e fans would think 
this way, since we *are* (and I don't speak for everyone,but the majority of 
us,that is) devoted fans and the long wait is worth it (yes,we are a little
impatient now,but that doesn't change a whole lot). 
  And, -- we would never give up on Shirley(or waiting 
for the new cd)cos of impatience!! 
  I don't think any *loyal* fan would give up on their fave artist just cos 
he/she has not released anything new for the past year--Western artists 
could take as long as 2-3 years!!Most of us are satisfied listening to her 
old songs until anything new comes out.
  I guess u're not such a big a fan as other members of the 'e list....
And about the blanket:whose theory is this??I don't think it's Freud's 
theory,is it?I could be wrong.Sorry if I seem ignorant--I've only taken 
first year Psychology.
PS:I've hugged the same teddy bear since I was 2, and nothing else 
will do!!

> Re: Talking to Myself....I don't think Sheryl Crow wrote the song for
> Shirley....I think that Shirley just covered the song...and that the
> arrangement from the english version is different....I remember Shirley
> saying that she played around with the song to make it more suitable for
> an HK audience....
> 
> Will . .
        U
 
*****Sara:Really?Then why did the DJ even bother saying, "So, Sheryl Crow 
wrote this song for you."??And why would the media keep mentioning that 
Sheryl Crow wrote this song??I mean, it's very rare that u'd hear them 
announce the composer if it's a cover. ie:u'd rarely hear,"And here is 
Linda Wong's new song,re-sung from Cathy Dennis!"(or whoever)
I'd stick with the comment from On On/Anna,that Joseph Ip got the songs and 
distributed it to 'e and others...

On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:34:00 -0800 Will Wong wrote:
>the individual who keeps saying that Kelly Chen new should be discussed 
>on her list,well, there is no such thing as a Kelly Chen mailing list" 

*****Sara:Oh?Who is this person??I don't recall anyone saying this??And,too 
bad--one would think that such a big a star would already have multiple 
mailing lists.

And so, I rest my case...
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
 ________________________________________________________________________


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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:05:10 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: your mail

At 6:07 PM -0800 11/16/96, Sara Leung wrote:

>And about the blanket:whose theory is this??I don't think it's Freud's
>theory,is it?I could be wrong.Sorry if I seem ignorant--I've only taken
>first year Psychology.
>
>PS:I've hugged the same teddy bear since I was 2, and nothing else
>will do!!

As an aside, I believe the "blanket theory" comes from Peanuts Comics.
Linus must have his blanket with him, else he'll go nuts. :-)

Keith


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Date: 17 Nov 1996 01:39:20 EDT
Subject: Shirley's fans club

Hello Keith,

       I found out that Carol's address is:

in: carol.chu@mmhs.markham.on.ca

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 02:26:58 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: Shirley's fans club

At 2:54 PM +0800 11/17/96, LMK wrote:
>On 17 Nov 1996 dacheung@mmhs.markham.on.ca wrote:
>
>hi keith,
>
>Just curious, who's Carol?

She sent a subscription request a while back, but the message bounced. I
noticed Derek is going to the same high school, so I ask him if he could
get the correct email address for me.

Keith


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  (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:14:54 -0400
    17 Nov 96 11:14:52 +0400
From: "Vanessa Kam" <013950K@axe.acadiau.ca>
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:14:48 AST4ADT
Subject: Re: MingPao!

> Date:          Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:33:31 -0500
> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
> From:          Keith Hui 
> Subject:       Re: MingPao!
> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net

> At 3:52 PM +0000 11/16/96, Vanessa Kam wrote:
> 
> >> Or see this page :
> >> http://www.mingpao.com/newspaper/961116/ma615.htm
> >>
> >
> >How can I read the Chinese wordings from netscape???????
> 
> Which platform do you use?
> 
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
What is "platform"???

 

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  (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:35:04 -0400
    17 Nov 96 12:35:03 +0400
From: "Vanessa Kam" <013950K@axe.acadiau.ca>
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:34:44 AST4ADT
Subject: Re: MingPao!

> Date:          Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:57:24 +0800
> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
> From:          Simon Leung 
> Subject:       Re: MingPao!
> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net

> >What is "platform"???
> >
> > 
> Is you using Chinese version of MS Windows?  If not, download some software
> that can read chinese characters and install them, such as Unionway Chinese
> Viewer or AsiaSurf (ftp://ftp.asiaonline.net/ftp/easynet/asurf.exe)
> 
> Simon Leung
> SJC, HK
> 
I had already downloaded"ftp://ftp.asiaonline.net/ftp/easynet/asurf.exe",
and I still can't read Mingpao in Chinese, how come? 

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From: Tam Ignatius 
Subject: Re: Shirley VCD
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:03:38 +0800 (HKT)

> 
> At 12:59 AM 11/17/1996 +0800, Mr Forest Fong wrote:
> 
> >BTW how much does the VCD cost?
> >
> I bought one from the 298 Computer Mall in Wanchai (I am not very sure the
> name) and it costs me HK$80.  The disk is great, every Shirley's fans should
> get one ASAP.
> 
80 bucks!?  You've got ripped off.  Mine is only $58 in Kowloon City
Plaza.

yep, the VCD is very great, a must buy.

-iGnatius

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:22:16 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley VCD

Hi subscribers,

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Tam Ignatius wrote:

> yep, the VCD is very great, a must buy.

'e space is updated with the information of Shirley's lastest VCD.

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:57:24 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Simon Leung 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

At 11:14 AM 11/17/1996 AST4ADT, Vanessa Kam wrote:
>> Date:          Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:33:31 -0500
>> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list

>> From:          Keith Hui 
>> Subject:       Re: MingPao!
>> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net
>
>> At 3:52 PM +0000 11/16/96, Vanessa Kam wrote:
>> 
>> >> Or see this page :
>> >> http://www.mingpao.com/newspaper/961116/ma615.htm
>> >>
>> >
>> >How can I read the Chinese wordings from netscape???????
>> 
>> Which platform do you use?
>> 
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>What is "platform"???
>
> 
Is you using Chinese version of MS Windows?  If not, download some software
that can read chinese characters and install them, such as Unionway Chinese
Viewer or AsiaSurf (ftp://ftp.asiaonline.net/ftp/easynet/asurf.exe)

Simon Leung
SJC, HK

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:24:53 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: On On/Anna 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

>I had already downloaded"ftp://ftp.asiaonline.net/ftp/easynet/asurf.exe",
>and I still can't read Mingpao in Chinese, how come? 

I guess you may have to open the downloaded thing before opening to netscape...

on on
Cheer up! If life hands    /\         /\     
you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
	^_^	            |  I>o>>>>>>

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  (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:28:00 -0400
    17 Nov 96 20:27:56 +0400
From: "Vanessa Kam" <013950K@axe.acadiau.ca>
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:27:44 AST4ADT
Subject: Re: MingPao!

> Date:          Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:40:52 -0500
> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
> From:          Keith Hui 
> Subject:       Re: MingPao!
> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net

> At 12:34 PM +0000 11/17/96, Vanessa Kam wrote:
> 
> >I had already downloaded"ftp://ftp.asiaonline.net/ftp/easynet/asurf.exe",
> >and I still can't read Mingpao in Chinese, how come?
> 
> Did you configure Netscape to use the Chinese fonts in the "General
> Preferences", and picked "Traditional Chinese (BIG-5)" in the "Document
> Encoding" menu under "Options"?
> 
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
Guess I had already used those options that you mentioned, but it 
still  doesn't work!

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Date: 	Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:36:42 -0500
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's fans club

On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Sara Leung wrote:

> Wow!!! Does this *really* mean that 'e has an official fanclub?? When I 
> bought "Story of Shirley",there was a fan club application form there--I 
> wrote and no one replied!!Then I wrote to Polygram(courtesy of the 
> address found in Shirley's '95 diary)and still there was no reply!!
> Which cd did u buy???

Yes! Shirley does have an official fan club. I was a member for one year 
in 92-93, I believe.(I can't remember the exact year actually.) I didn't 
really enjoy being a fan club member. Usually, there are three gatherings 
in a year. The main one is her birthday party. When I was a fan club 
member, I also attended a mini New Year Concert which was held in a hotel. 
That was a good memorable gathering, I think. Apart from that, you will 
usually ask to go to TVB or some other functions. If you want to take 
some pictures, her fan club really offers you a good chance. However, if 
you don't like to attend the "normal" functions(eg, going to TVB), I don't 
think you are really that enjoy for being her fan club member. That's why I 
didn't renew my membership card when it expired. Furthermore, if you are only 
interested in her birthday party and mini concert, you can still go even though
you are not a member coz' you have to paid the entrance fee. (about $280-$300)
However, I think it's not a good time to join her fan club right now 
coz' I heard somebody said it's pretty disorganized. Moreover, at this 
point, no function is held recently. Perhaps, you can think about it 
after Shirley re-organizes her fan club.

> On the topic:is anybody interested in a Canadian gathering of all 'e's 
> fans??We could get together, swap stuff, etc--we might even get Shirley 
> to come(yeah right--but hey,I'm allowed to dream,right??!)or, even 
> better:a  gathering of all her Vancouver based 'e followers!!!
> but, of course,most unlikely--but pls would some one give some feedback!!! 
> 

I'm interested in participating in a Canadian gathering. I used to live 
in Vancouver, but right now I'm studying in University of Toronto. If 
there is a gathering in summer, I am sure that I'll go coz' I definately 
will go back to Van. during summer. If you have any new info, please 
update that to me.

Blanche



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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:22:45 +0000
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Nicholas 
Subject: Otherness?

Hi people.  I have this little request...

I remember there was a list member (sorry i forgot your name - trashed my
mails too quickly...) here who mentioned this French CD which Shirley did a
few covers?  Could you please tell me the full name of the singer, title of
CD, etc?

Do you think Shirley was ever influenced by any other singer/actress?  I
hear people say that other singers like Faye were influenced by people like
(the late) Theresa Tang (sp?), Cocteau Twins, Cranberries, etc; and Sandy
did enjoy listening to people like Sam Hui, BeeGee, etc.  What about
Shirley?  Did she ever say she admires so and so's work and claimed that
she was influenced by some others?

And er, was there a 'story' behind how she started her career (before she
entered the competition)?  Like (here comes my imagination), one day in her
childhood, she watched this movie and then bang, the music in the movie
touched her so deep that she thought she ought to express herself through
music and share her joy with other people...  It's funny but for some
entertainers, performing/singing is like a destiny to them...  I mean, look
at Tori (yes, JoJo, i am a big Tori fan*) Amos, she learnt how to climb to
the piano stool before she learnt how to walk and she could 'compose' tunes
before she could put a sentence together.  And then Sandy, she has a very
strong musical background in her family back home...  (don't worry, i won't
go on :> ).  I am just curious if there was a real interesting Shirley
Story too.

Oh, one more request, other than the French singer above, did Shirley ever
cover any other people's songs?  It'd be great if someone has already
worked out a list of it!  All i can remember is that the one Vanessa
Williams did a few years ago (and of course, Roxette)...  I would love to
explore some other new stuffs.  Or, if you hear a singer whom you really
like or thinks her/his style is closed to Shirley and would like to share
with others, please, do tell!
BTW, you don't have to spill everything in public, you could always reply
in private you know.

Ohoh, one last thing (honest), i hear people talking about this official
MTV VCD thing of Shirley, care to give us more details?  Yes, i believe
giving full details of her recently released VCD is a very appropriate and
sensible thing to do HERE!  and do it NOW, please.  Is it a MTV VCD or is
it a Karaoke thing?  I saw Sammi's VCD not so long ago and the production
is really...  "Ma Fool"?!

Okay, that's all for now and let's Enjoy this Winter peacefully.

God bless.

* Jojo, how did you know i am a Tori fan?!  Was it because i did refer to
"don't want your sex" thing?  I was actually 'un-quoting' one of Shirley's
song "Secret Meeting", "Leather" comes into my mind a bit later...
subconscious?  Like i said, i was just writing that one while in trance...
just like i am now  ;)  BTW, got any boots to trade?!

  yours virtually,

  CCC   CC          "the clouds methought would open and show riches
  CCCC  CC              ready to drop upon me, that, when I wak'd,
  CC CC CC                     I cried to dream again"
  CC  CCCC
  CC   CCC                  	                     Caliban
 


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Date: 	Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:40:41 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

   What about Big 5? How come Big 5 can't transfer the artical to Chinese 
character?

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Simon Leung wrote:

> At 11:14 AM 11/17/1996 AST4ADT, Vanessa Kam wrote:
> >> Date:          Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:33:31 -0500
> >> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list
> 
> >> From:          Keith Hui 
> >> Subject:       Re: MingPao!
> >> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net
> >
> >> At 3:52 PM +0000 11/16/96, Vanessa Kam wrote:
> >> 
> >> >> Or see this page :
> >> >> http://www.mingpao.com/newspaper/961116/ma615.htm
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >How can I read the Chinese wordings from netscape???????
> >> 
> >> Which platform do you use?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Keith
> >> 
> >> 
> >What is "platform"???
> >
> > 
> Is you using Chinese version of MS Windows?  If not, download some software
> that can read chinese characters and install them, such as Unionway Chinese
> Viewer or AsiaSurf (ftp://ftp.asiaonline.net/ftp/easynet/asurf.exe)
> 
> Simon Leung
> SJC, HK
> 
> 

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Date: 	Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:45:41 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's fans club

To Blanche,
   Why can't we have one in Toronto? I think a lot of Shirley's fans who 
live in Toronto. I am studying in U of T too. What program you are in?
I am major in Economics.

Tom
Nov. 17

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 blanche.cheung@utoronto.ca wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Sara Leung wrote:
> 
> > Wow!!! Does this *really* mean that 'e has an official fanclub?? When I 
> > bought "Story of Shirley",there was a fan club application form there--I 
> > wrote and no one replied!!Then I wrote to Polygram(courtesy of the 
> > address found in Shirley's '95 diary)and still there was no reply!!
> > Which cd did u buy???
> 
> Yes! Shirley does have an official fan club. I was a member for one year 
> in 92-93, I believe.(I can't remember the exact year actually.) I didn't 
> really enjoy being a fan club member. Usually, there are three gatherings 
> in a year. The main one is her birthday party. When I was a fan club 
> member, I also attended a mini New Year Concert which was held in a hotel. 
> That was a good memorable gathering, I think. Apart from that, you will 
> usually ask to go to TVB or some other functions. If you want to take 
> some pictures, her fan club really offers you a good chance. However, if 
> you don't like to attend the "normal" functions(eg, going to TVB), I don't 
> think you are really that enjoy for being her fan club member. That's why I 
> didn't renew my membership card when it expired. Furthermore, if you are only 
> interested in her birthday party and mini concert, you can still go even though
> you are not a member coz' you have to paid the entrance fee. (about $280-$300)
> However, I think it's not a good time to join her fan club right now 
> coz' I heard somebody said it's pretty disorganized. Moreover, at this 
> point, no function is held recently. Perhaps, you can think about it 
> after Shirley re-organizes her fan club.
> 
> > On the topic:is anybody interested in a Canadian gathering of all 'e's 
> > fans??We could get together, swap stuff, etc--we might even get Shirley 
> > to come(yeah right--but hey,I'm allowed to dream,right??!)or, even 
> > better:a  gathering of all her Vancouver based 'e followers!!!
> > but, of course,most unlikely--but pls would some one give some feedback!!! 
> > 
> 
> I'm interested in participating in a Canadian gathering. I used to live 
> in Vancouver, but right now I'm studying in University of Toronto. If 
> there is a gathering in summer, I am sure that I'll go coz' I definately 
> will go back to Van. during summer. If you have any new info, please 
> update that to me.
> 
> Blanche
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:36:16 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

At 11:14 AM +0000 11/17/96, Vanessa Kam wrote:

>> >How can I read the Chinese wordings from netscape???????
>>
>> Which platform do you use?
>
>What is "platform"???

i.e., what computer/OS combination do you use?

Keith


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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:40:52 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

At 12:34 PM +0000 11/17/96, Vanessa Kam wrote:

>I had already downloaded"ftp://ftp.asiaonline.net/ftp/easynet/asurf.exe",
>and I still can't read Mingpao in Chinese, how come?

Did you configure Netscape to use the Chinese fonts in the "General
Preferences", and picked "Traditional Chinese (BIG-5)" in the "Document
Encoding" menu under "Options"?

Keith


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Date: 	Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:22:28 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Shirley's fans club

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:

> To Blanche,
>    Why can't we have one in Toronto? I think a lot of Shirley's fans who 
> live in Toronto. I am studying in U of T too. What program you are in?
> I am major in Economics.
> 
> Tom
> Nov. 17

Dear Tom,

	Yeah! We can have one in Toronto too. I didn't mean that we can't 
have one in Toronto. I'm a year one student and have granted the guaranteed 
acceptance in the Commerce Program next year.

Blanche.

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:26:16 -0800 (PST)
From: John Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Vanessa Kam wrote:

> > Did you configure Netscape to use the Chinese fonts in the "General
> > Preferences", and picked "Traditional Chinese (BIG-5)" in the "Document
> > Encoding" menu under "Options"?

> Guess I had already used those options that you mentioned, but it 
> still  doesn't work!

That option is for Unix version of Netscape as I know (somehow they still
put the code there for some unknown reason.)  You have to install either
Unionway or Chinese Partner to view them under MS Windows environment.

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:38:13 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: John Fong 
Subject: homepage...

Hello,

This message is to those who maintain a pop star webpage.

Did you received a message from a dude at taiwan awhile ago?  He is asking
for premission from all pop star webpage owners to give him premission to
copy the entire homepage and put them on a cd-rom so some entry level users
can access the page via the cd-rom.

I brought it up on the Vivian Lai mailing list, and most people agree that
we should ignore this guy as he and his company  would be the only one
benefited from this thing.  I hope people on this list who is maintaining a
pop star webpage should ignore him (ie, don't reply to his message.)

John Y. Fong
jfong@sfsu.edu
http://sfsu.edu/~jfong

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:42:08 -0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: John Fong 
Subject: Re: Shirley VCD

Humm...anyone know where I can find a good VCD view program for Win95?  I am
using Xing that come with my video card, but I have to open each songs
seperately instead of view them in a row (ie, I can't view the VCD as CD-i
movie.)  That function is present in Win3.1, but not on Win95 =(

Any suggestion will be appreciated.

ps - haven't got Shirley's VCD yet, but I will get a hold of it later...hope
folks around the area don't swap them!

John Y. Fong
jfong@sfsu.edu
http://sfsu.edu/~jfong

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:40:51 -0800
From: Return 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Recency

Wei Shirleylist:

I don't think that's such an inconvenience; I also don't think that a
majority of the listed people would think that way.  So if these emails
bother you so much, withdraw from the list.

Bonnie
WW: Well, below all this arguing I am still a Shirley fan....I'll try no 
to complain too much again about this issue, but I know for a fact that I 
can't be the only one that hates having to go through 1 liners.....
What?  Me withdraw from this list???!?!  And give YOU the 
satisfaction?!?!
______________________________________________________________
Hi! Bonnieyu,

  I agree with you, Bonnie. What's wrong with the one sentence replies?
  If you don't want to read the short message, just delete it right away.
  What is the problem? 
  
  Tom
WW: Well, It's not so simply the "one sentence replies" that is bugging 
me most, it's more the fact that I'm reading mails like "good one Sara!" 
or "Yeah I know"....  this type of mail, if it is in fact to make someone 
feel better that someone else shares the same opinion, should be kept in 
private....I acknowledge that 1 sentence e-mails are not always 
"pointless", as sometimes people just don't have much to say and might
just ask a "one sentece" question to a problem....there's a difference 
between these one line e-mails and the pointless "Yeah I know" e-mails...
Another thing is that, I cannot tell which e-mails are going to be short 
or long...so what do you mean by telling me not to read the "short 
mails"?  What, am I supposed to have ESP or something?
_____________________________________________________________
  
*****Sara:Well,I don't think that the majority of us 'e fans would think 
this way, since we *are* (and I don't speak for everyone,but the majority 
of us,that is) devoted fans and the long wait is worth it (yes,we are a 
little impatient now,but that doesn't change a whole lot). 
  And, -- we would never give up on Shirley(or waiting 
for the new cd)cos of impatience!! 
  I don't think any *loyal* fan would give up on their fave artist just 
cos he/she has not released anything new for the past year--Western 
artists could take as long as 2-3 years!!Most of us are satisfied 
listening to her old songs until anything new comes out.
WW: Well, you've obviously overestimated your own opinion...what about 
Anita Mui or Leslie Cheung?  Didn't they retire from the music scene 
...although indicating they would eventually return?  Don't tell me they 
didn't lose fans!  Many of their fans turned elsewhere after they 
left for a while....and when they did return, many of their so-called 
*LOYAL* fans flocked to other fan clubs....
  

I guess u're not such a big a fan as other members of the 'e list....
And about the blanket:whose theory is this??I don't think it's Freud's 
theory,is it?I could be wrong.Sorry if I seem ignorant--I've only taken 
first year Psychology.
PS:I've hugged the same teddy bear since I was 2, and nothing else 
will do!!
WW: Well, exactly, my point is that if i took your teddy bear away from 
you, eventually, you'd give up and start looking for another teddy 
bear...  I am a Psych/Law major....  I was more referring to the "recency 
effect"....Freud is more a psychoanalytical psychologist....I'm using a 
social psychological perspective....anywayz, the recency effect states 
that basically we are more partial to "what's been done for us 
lately'...and if Shirley hasn't been "doing much for us lately", then it 
is quite plausible to think that we will look elsewhere....   if you 
don't believe me, go yourself and read Miller and Campbell's report 
studies...or Haugvedt and Wegemer's study reports.....

What do you mean I'm not as "big a fan as some others on the list?"  How 
many guys out there do you know that have all of Shirley's MTVs...and can 
sing all her Karaoke songs from 1993 onwards?!?!?!  Think twice before 
you speak and NEVER ASSUME!  I'm speaking for myself and other "fans" who
are feeling angry about Shirley's lack of music these days.....

Jason Hsu: Hi again!  Thank you for the compliment....I am still 
blushing!...har-har...

Will . .
      U

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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 20:24:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Sender: Sara Leung 
Subject: Re: Recency
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

On Nov 17 1996,Will Wong wrote:

> WW: Well, It's not so simply the "one sentence replies" that is bugging 
> me most, it's more the fact that I'm reading mails like "good one Sara!" 

*****Sara: Do I sense a hint of jealousy?!
(Just JOKING --don't grab the cleaver just yet)  :)

>"Yeah I know"....  this type of mail, if it is in fact to make someone 
> feel better that someone else shares the same opinion, should be kept in 
> private....

*****Sara:And may I ask,"Who are you to tell others 'what to do or what to 
say'??" 
  
> (S)I don't think any *loyal* fan would give up on their fave artist just 
> cos he/she has not released anything new for the past year--Western 
> artists could take as long as 2-3 years!!Most of us are satisfied 
> listening to her old songs until anything new comes out.
> WW: Well, you've obviously overestimated your own opinion...what about 
> Anita Mui or Leslie Cheung?  Didn't they retire from the music scene 
> ...although indicating they would eventually return?  Don't tell me they 
> didn't lose fans!  Many of their fans turned elsewhere after they 
> left for a while....and when they did return, many of their so-called 
> *LOYAL* fans flocked to other fan clubs....
   
*****Sara:If u read closely enough,I said,"for the past year"and not 
5,10 or 15 years.Read carefully.Of course fans will turn to others
if their fave artist has not released anything new for the past 
XX years--the case with Leslie/Anita is slightly 
different,they stated that they quit singing(how indecisive of them,I would 
be pissed as a fan too) --BUT: Shirley is *still* singing (and mentioned 
briefly here and there), it is just a
matter of time before we get something new from her...So,till the day 
that 'e says she'll stop singing,she'll still be number one in the *loyal*
fans POV....Or,in the realllly devoted fans POV, whether she continues 
to sing or not. 

>and when they did return ,many of their so-called *LOYAL*fans 
>flocked to other fanclubs....

I guess they weren't the real fans,eh?!

> WW: Well, exactly, my point is that if i took your teddy bear away from 
> you, eventually, you'd give up and start looking for another teddy 
> bear...  I am a Psych/Law major....  I was more referring to the "recency 
> effect"....

*****Sara:Thanks for the Psych lecture, I stab myself for not paying 
more attention in my lectures..ps:Keith,u were wrong(though I liked the 
Linus theory more!!!!!!!!!!)
 
> What do you mean I'm not as "big a fan as some others on the list?"  How 
> many guys out there do you know that have all of Shirley's MTVs...and can 
> sing all her Karaoke songs from 1993 onwards?!?!?!

*****Sara:As for the MTV's, u win since I only have the concert LD,concert 
Karaoke LD,compilation LD and a few other single songs pulled from Polygram 
Karaoke Compilations. But I do have all her cd's including doubles--the 
Jap version of 'Story of' and Mand version of 'Ex'....And,I can sing all her 
songs (karaoke or not)from the start of her career.

> Think twice before 
> you speak and NEVER ASSUME!  I'm speaking for myself and other "fans" who
> are feeling angry about Shirley's lack of music these days.....

*****Sara: Hey,simmer down, I said,"I guess" and not,
"U ARE NOT A BIG A FAN AS OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!" there is a difference.
We may be impatient,but we're still waiting and still strongly support 
her,unlike some individuals who have flocked to others cos others have more
albums out in the past year....  

As somebody once said,"Have a nice day"!
 
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:24:03 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: Recency

At 7:40 PM -0800 11/17/96, Return wrote:

>WW: Well, It's not so simply the "one sentence replies" that is bugging
>me most, it's more the fact that I'm reading mails like "good one Sara!"
>...
>Another thing is that, I cannot tell which e-mails are going to be short
>or long...so what do you mean by telling me not to read the "short
>mails"?  What, am I supposed to have ESP or something?

Will, just a reminder. If you find individual messages difficult to manage,
you can always turn on the "digest" option for your subscription. That way,
you'll only get one mail containing all the messages posted in that day. No
more worries about "one sentence replies".

Keith


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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:35:37 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Otherness?

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Nicholas wrote:

> Ohoh, one last thing (honest), i hear people talking about this official
> MTV VCD thing of Shirley, care to give us more details?  Yes, i believe
> giving full details of her recently released VCD is a very appropriate and
> sensible thing to do HERE!  and do it NOW, please.  Is it a MTV VCD or is

The full title of the VCD is 

PolyGram VCD . Shirley Kwan - 
         Are There Any Real Friends In Life MTV Karaoke

Therefore, subtitles are always on screen. :-( For details of song list,
please refer to http://www.hookup.net/~khui/shirley/albums/d01/d01.html . 

[LMK :P]

 < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL:lmk@moon.csc.cuhk.edu.hk >


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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:48:19 +0800 (HKT)
From: Tong Lai Yin 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: MTV collection

	I wonder how many of you have a complete collection of Shirley's MTVs!I 
mean the MTV made by TVB!I think that the quality and her performance of 
the MTVs are very high and they are very precious!Like "Make a Mysterious 
Dream" is even better than the karaoke video!And "Love me Now" and so 
on!Do you guys have such rare collection?

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 01:54:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Subject: Re: Recency
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Will Wong wrote:

> What do you mean I'm not as "big a fan as some others on the list?"  How 
> many guys out there do you know that have all of Shirley's MTVs...and can 
> sing all her Karaoke songs from 1993 onwards?!?!?! 

Reading this again,I realise that u might not be implying 'guys'as in 
the general population,but guys as in garcons(dudes).N'est pas?
Anyhoo if so,yes,FYI,I *do* know quite a few guys that can sing all her 
songs from 93 onwards...so I guess u're one in a million.....literally.
  
U win with the MTV collection..Whoop whoop,hip hip hooray :)

ps:Since u have all the vids,could u pls describe the "Talking to 
Myself"vid-- I've only seen half of it on TV and it was a real blur... 
And I've never seen the "Are there any real friends in Life"vid(where she 
has blondish hair???)Care to elaborate?Thanx.

pps:Could someone pls explain why some artists make an MTV then 
especially go and make another one for the Karaoke???!
  _______________________________________    
 |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
 |____     |         |         |         |  
 |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
 |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
 "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
 ________________________________________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 06:03:09 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: Recency

At 1:54 AM -0800 11/18/96, Sara Leung wrote:

>pps:Could someone pls explain why some artists make an MTV then
>especially go and make another one for the Karaoke???!

This is only a guess. I hope I do better than the blanket theory last time. :-P

Those MTVs that you see on TVB are produced by TVB, and hence, they've the
copyright. As to why most (dare I say all) Karaoke MTVs are different, I
think it's either because TVB is reluctant to let the record companies use
them, or it wants an inordinate sum of money for the use of the material,
so that it simply make better financial sense for them to make their own.

Keith


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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:10:45 +0800 (HKT)
From: Mr Forest Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re:  MTV collection

As an aside to this MTV discussion..

One of her MTV is filmed inside an elevator or
the building where Polygram Studio is.

(I think the MTV is 'Late Night Harbour.)

So is the CD Cover of 'All time Favorites.'

Not sure if many of you know 'bout this.

./
/

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:12:46 +0800 (HKT)
From: Mr Forest Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re:  MTV collection

As an aside to this MTV discussion..

One of her MTV is filmed inside an elevator of

the building where Polygram Studio is.

(I think the MTV is 'Late Night Harbour.)

So is the CD Cover of 'All time Favorites.'

Not sure if many of you know 'bout this.

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:57:43 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Simon Leung 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

At 08:27 PM 11/17/1996 AST4ADT, you wrote:
>> Date:          Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:40:52 -0500
>> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list

>> From:          Keith Hui 
>> Subject:       Re: MingPao!
>> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net
>
>> At 12:34 PM +0000 11/17/96, Vanessa Kam wrote:
>> 
>> >I had already downloaded"ftp://ftp.asiaonline.net/ftp/easynet/asurf.exe",
>> >and I still can't read Mingpao in Chinese, how come?
>> 
>> Did you configure Netscape to use the Chinese fonts in the "General
>> Preferences", and picked "Traditional Chinese (BIG-5)" in the "Document
>> Encoding" menu under "Options"?
>> 
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>Guess I had already used those options that you mentioned, but it 
>still doesn't work!
>
I think you should install the downloaded file, asurf.exe.  First put the
downloaded execution file into the temporary directory (e.g. C:\Temp), run
it to extract the files.  Then run setup.exe for installation.  For question
arising from the program, see the readme.txt file.  Delete the temporary
directory after the whole process

I have attached a word document concerning this to you own e-mail, not
through the list.

Simon Leung
SJC, HK

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:49:00 +0800
From: TONG KEVIN 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: MTV collection

Mr Forest Fong wrote:
> 
> As an aside to this MTV discussion..
> 
> One of her MTV is filmed inside an elevator of
> 
> the building where Polygram Studio is.
> 
> (I think the MTV is 'Late Night Harbour.)
> 
> So is the CD Cover of 'All time Favorites.'
> 
> Not sure if many of you know 'bout this.

Yes,You are right!The MTV is one of my favourites!And that is
Polygram.The life is also that in Polygram's building!

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:20:55 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna 
Subject: Re: Recency

At 01:54 AM 11/18/96 -0800, sarah wrote:
>pps:Could someone pls explain why some artists make an MTV then 
>especially go and make another one for the Karaoke???!

most propbably. it is because of the contract issue. tvb is a bad co. she
does not allow singers to appear in different tv channels other than herself
if the singer has a tvb contract... neither can the things the singer
recorded w/ tvb be issued outside of tvb sources. as a result, if you see a
version of mtv made by tvb, it can only appear on tv. for karaoke, the
record co has to make its own. but sometimes, the $$ and quality spent on
mtv is much higher and better from the record company, tvb wld be most happy
to use this version instead: 1st it is more gd-looking, 2nd tvb itself can
save money. this esp happen in polygram e.g. the marlboro hits songs.

on on
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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:19:35 +0800 (HKT)
From: Mr Forest Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re:  MTV collection

Yes am sure cuz' I work in that building.  
Actually ran into her three times in recent years.

But I doubt that MTV is on any LD or VCD, cuz' it's
produced by TVB.

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:57:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Phan Ngoc Dung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: MingPao!

since some of us won't be able to read the mingpao in chinese version, 
can someone at least tell us what the article is about. i want to know 
but can't read it either from netscape. everyone mentions it, but leave 
us clueless. tell all. please

pd.

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From: "Vanessa Kam" <013950K@axe.acadiau.ca>
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:14:48 AST4ADT
Subject: Re: MingPao!

.......................................................................

     The type of computer system you are using.

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Subject: Re: MingPao!
Author:  Non-HP-013950K (013950K@axe.acadiau.ca) at hp-boise,shargw6
Date:    11/17/96 10:14 AM

> Date:          Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:33:31 -0500
> To:            Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
> From:          Keith Hui  
> Subject:       Re: MingPao!
> Reply-to:      shirley-list@hookup.net
     
> At 3:52 PM +0000 11/16/96, Vanessa Kam wrote: 
> 
> >> Or see this page :
> >> http://www.mingpao.com/newspaper/961116/ma615.htm 
> >>
> >
> >How can I read the Chinese wordings from netscape??????? 
> 
> Which platform do you use?
> 
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
What is "platform"???
     
     

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From: bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:01:02 -0800 (PST)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

Hi Jo Jo,

So where do you live?

Bonnie

At 05:50 PM 11/16/96 -0800, you wrote:
>bonnieyu wrote:
>> 
>> I saw that most of the VCDs here in Los Angeles are cheaper than the CDs,
like $12 to $14.
>> 
>> Bonnie
>> Oh Bonnie, I envy you!  You live in Los Angeles?  I'd love to go to a 
>big city like that!
>
>Jo Jo
>-- 
>* My Secret Garden *
>
>
>

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From: bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:04:07 -0800 (PST)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Recency

Will, Will, Will,

You don't give up, do ya?!

Bonnie

P.S.  Have a nice day.  By the way, I LOVE one-sentence email.


At 08:24 PM 11/17/96 -0800, you wrote:
>On Nov 17 1996,Will Wong wrote:
>
>> WW: Well, It's not so simply the "one sentence replies" that is bugging 
>> me most, it's more the fact that I'm reading mails like "good one Sara!" 
>
>
>*****Sara: Do I sense a hint of jealousy?!
>(Just JOKING --don't grab the cleaver just yet)  :)
>
>>"Yeah I know"....  this type of mail, if it is in fact to make someone 
>> feel better that someone else shares the same opinion, should be kept in 
>> private....
>
>*****Sara:And may I ask,"Who are you to tell others 'what to do or what to 
>say'??" 
>  
>> (S)I don't think any *loyal* fan would give up on their fave artist just 
>> cos he/she has not released anything new for the past year--Western 
>> artists could take as long as 2-3 years!!Most of us are satisfied 
>> listening to her old songs until anything new comes out.
>> WW: Well, you've obviously overestimated your own opinion...what about 
>> Anita Mui or Leslie Cheung?  Didn't they retire from the music scene 
>> ...although indicating they would eventually return?  Don't tell me they 
>> didn't lose fans!  Many of their fans turned elsewhere after they 
>> left for a while....and when they did return, many of their so-called 
>> *LOYAL* fans flocked to other fan clubs....
>   
>*****Sara:If u read closely enough,I said,"for the past year"and not 
>5,10 or 15 years.Read carefully.Of course fans will turn to others
>if their fave artist has not released anything new for the past 
>XX years--the case with Leslie/Anita is slightly 
>different,they stated that they quit singing(how indecisive of them,I would 
>be pissed as a fan too) --BUT: Shirley is *still* singing (and mentioned 
>briefly here and there), it is just a
>matter of time before we get something new from her...So,till the day 
>that 'e says she'll stop singing,she'll still be number one in the *loyal*
>fans POV....Or,in the realllly devoted fans POV, whether she continues 
>to sing or not. 
>
>>and when they did return ,many of their so-called *LOYAL*fans 
>>flocked to other fanclubs....
>
>I guess they weren't the real fans,eh?!
>
>
>> WW: Well, exactly, my point is that if i took your teddy bear away from 
>> you, eventually, you'd give up and start looking for another teddy 
>> bear...  I am a Psych/Law major....  I was more referring to the "recency 
>> effect"....
>
>*****Sara:Thanks for the Psych lecture, I stab myself for not paying 
>more attention in my lectures..ps:Keith,u were wrong(though I liked the 
>Linus theory more!!!!!!!!!!)
> 
>> What do you mean I'm not as "big a fan as some others on the list?"  How 
>> many guys out there do you know that have all of Shirley's MTVs...and can 
>> sing all her Karaoke songs from 1993 onwards?!?!?!
>
>*****Sara:As for the MTV's, u win since I only have the concert LD,concert 
>Karaoke LD,compilation LD and a few other single songs pulled from Polygram 
>Karaoke Compilations. But I do have all her cd's including doubles--the 
>Jap version of 'Story of' and Mand version of 'Ex'....And,I can sing all her 
>songs (karaoke or not)from the start of her career.
>
>> Think twice before 
>> you speak and NEVER ASSUME!  I'm speaking for myself and other "fans" who
>> are feeling angry about Shirley's lack of music these days.....
>
>*****Sara: Hey,simmer down, I said,"I guess" and not,
>"U ARE NOT A BIG A FAN AS OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!" there is a difference.
>We may be impatient,but we're still waiting and still strongly support 
>her,unlike some individuals who have flocked to others cos others have more
>albums out in the past year....  
>
>As somebody once said,"Have a nice day"!
> 
>  _______________________________________    
> |         |         |         |         |    Sara Leung
> |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
> |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
> |____     |         |         |         |  
> |         |    |    |    |    |    |    |    email:sjl@vcn.bc.ca  
> |_________|____|____|____|____|____|____|   
> "If it makes u happy,it can't be that bad..if it makes u happy,then why 
>                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:17:22 -0800
From: Return 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re; Recency

Wei Shirleyfriends:

*****Sara: Do I sense a hint of jealousy?!
(Just JOKING --don't grab the cleaver just yet)  :)
WW: huh?  Do you have a cold?...hehe....  I'll try to hold back the 
cleaver, you crazy rival! kekekek....

*****Sara:And may I ask,"Who are you to tell others 'what to do or what 
to 
say'??" 
WW: Hey, I have free speech rights as guaranteed by the Charter of Rights 
and Freedoms, no?...hehe...  as long as what I'm saying is within 
reasonalbe limits, that's fine.  What I mean is that to make everyone on 
the list have to flip through a bunch of 3-4 word replies is not 
necessary and might be classified as "unreasonable"....or even 
unnecessary....and I'm not telling people what/what not to say, I'm 
telling them where they should say it....
  

e pissed as a fan too) --BUT: Shirley is *still* singing (and mentioned 
briefly here and there), it is just a
matter of time before we get something new from her...So,till the day 
that 'e says she'll stop singing,she'll still be number one in the 
*loyal*
fans POV....Or,in the realllly devoted fans POV, whether she continues 
to sing or not. 
WW: I may not be a "realllly devoted fan", but nevertheless I still am a 
fan! And since when is it a requirement to be a "realllly devoted 
fan"?....I'm sure not everyone of us on the list is a crazy devotee 
to Shirley....what makes you more important if you are a "realllly 
devoted fan"?  In other words, who really cares about the diff?

>and when they did return ,many of their so-called *LOYAL*fans 
>flocked to other fanclubs....I guess they weren't the real fans,eh?!
WW: Ya know?  Yeah, I would be angry if i were a fan of them 
too....imagine that, they have their "final encounter concerts" or 
whatever and create a huge media blitz, making everyone cry....and ina 
flash they go "Oh yeah, I'm going to come back"!?!?!  argh....

*****Sara:Thanks for the Psych lecture, I stab myself for not paying 
more attention in my lectures..ps:Keith,u were wrong(though I liked the 
Linus theory more!!!!!!!!!!)
WW: Hey, it's not a sin to "not pay attention in lectures"..hehe...
Why should you "stab yourself"?...kekekek...
 

*****Sara:As for the MTV's, u win since I only have the concert 
LD,concert 
Karaoke LD,compilation LD and a few other single songs pulled from 
Polygram 
Karaoke Compilations. But I do have all her cd's including doubles--the 
Jap version of 'Story of' and Mand version of 'Ex'....And,I can sing all 
her 
songs (karaoke or not)from the start of her career.
WW: Hey, that's impressive....if this was a Sandy Lam debate, I would be 
in your shoes....where did you ever get the mandarin edition of "EX"?  
What's the difference from the Cantonese one?.....  Oh you have the 
Japanese edit. of "Story"?....Cool....is there anything different in it 
from the HK release?.....It's like $40 in Toronto....and I looked at the 
price and thought, gee, I could buy  2 CDs for that price....

*****Sara: Hey,simmer down, I said,"I guess" and not,
"U ARE NOT A BIG A FAN AS OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!" there is a difference.
We may be impatient,but we're still waiting and still strongly support 
her,unlike some individuals who have flocked to others cos others have 
more
albums out in the past year....  
WW: Hey, I'm still a Shirley fan, although I'm not as crazy as others on 
the list....but there's nothing wrong with that....I'm just really 
impatient anmd always have to have the latest CDs NOW!!!  I put down a 
down payment on the new Shirley CD in July...and still haven't seen the 
CD..perhaps that's why I'm angry?!?!  

 Reading this again,I realise that u might not be implying 'guys'as in 
the general population,but guys as in garcons(dudes).N'est pas?
Anyhoo if so,yes,FYI,I *do* know quite a few guys that can sing all her 
songs from 93 onwards...so I guess u're one in a million.....literally.
WW: Well, how many Canadian Born Chinese guys, who at one point in their 
lives, couldn't read Chinese and had to phonetically translate all her 
songs into English, do you know who can sing all of Shirley's Karaoke 
edits after 1993?.....sorry had to clarify....
  
ps:Since u have all the vids,could u pls describe the "Talking to 
Myself"vid-- I've only seen half of it on TV and it was a real blur... 
And I've never seen the "Are there any real friends in Life"vid(where she 
has blondish hair???)Care to elaborate?Thanx.
WW: Oh yeah...I didn't like the "Are There Real Friends" MTV....it was 
too plain and the makeup didn't suit Shirley too well...far too pale!
The "Talking" MTV is really cool...Shirley has that "World Concert" 
haircut, wears a mod-style clothes...th video is all black in the 
background, with images of candles overlapping Shirley at one points in 
the video....  VERY COOL VIDEO!  Too bad there's no Karaoke for 
it....argh...

pps:Could someone pls explain why some artists make an MTV then 
especially go and make another one for the Karaoke???!
WW: Because TVB and PolyGram are separate entities...sometimes it's 
cheaper for PolyGram to make their own video than buying the rights to 
the TVB ones and put them on their LDs....

Will . .
      U

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Date: 	Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:32:23 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Forwarded mail....

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:08:49 -0500
From: Saint FiftynineR 
To: tom.lui@utoronto.ca
Subject: 

Hi Tom,

        Are you going back to HK this christmas? I guess we will have quite
a lot of people on the list going back to HK for the last christmas before
97. If you do, let's have a party in HK with other buddies on the list. Let
me know :) Thanx!

Gilbert
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Date: 18 Nov 1996 23:30:48 EDT
Subject: Forwarded mail....

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:20:41 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Otherness?

> * Jojo, how did you know i am a Tori fan?!  Was it because i did refer to
> "don't want your sex" thing?  I was actually 'un-quoting' one of Shirley's
> song "Secret Meeting", "Leather" comes into my mind a bit later...
> subconscious?  Like i said, i was just writing that one while in trance...
> just like i am now  ;)  BTW, got any boots to trade?!

Nope!  It's because I noticed the lyrics of "The Doughnut Song."

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:33:29 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

bonnieyu@scf-fs.usc.edu wrote:
> 
> Hi Jo Jo,
> 
> So where do you live?
> 
> Bonnie
> 

Hee, I live in Vancouver, Canada, and not really liking it cuz we just 
had snow.  And I'm suffering from bitter coldness cuz there's something 
wrong with my heater... 

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:20:13 +1000 (GMT+1000)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: s312205@student.uq.edu.au (Coffee)
Subject: 'eXquiSite-Closing Down Soon!!!!!!!!!

Hello all 'e fans, 

i 'm coffee - author of 'eXquiSite, due to my graduation coming very soon my
site will automatically close down at the end of December, so visit the site
and get whatever u want while u still can !!!!!!! i will set up another even
more 'eXquiSite site in HK early next yr. Merry christmas in advance to all
of u out there !!!!!!!!!!! Also Happy Birthday to whoever having birthday
this month , next month, the month after next month and the one after that
one.............

bye from Coffee

'eXquiSite
http://student.uq.edu.au/~s312205/shirley.htm

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 16:41:24 +0800
From: q 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: 'eXquiSite-Closing Down Soon!!!!!!!!!

Coffee wrote:
> 
> Hello all 'e fans,
> 
> i 'm coffee - author of 'eXquiSite, due to my graduation coming very soon my
> site will automatically close down at the end of December, so visit the site
> and get whatever u want while u still can !!!!!!! i will set up another even
> more 'eXquiSite site in HK early next yr. Merry christmas in advance to all
> of u out there !!!!!!!!!!! Also Happy Birthday to whoever having birthday
> this month , next month, the month after next month and the one after that
> one.............
> 
> bye from Coffee
> 
> 'eXquiSite
> http://student.uq.edu.au/~s312205/shirley.htm

Why? That is the worst news for me! In fact, the web site talk about
Shirley
Kwan is fewer than my thinking field.
I hope the existing web sites which talk about Shirley Kwan would not
said
bye to me... :(

Fans, Phantom Of The Computer
BenJamIn Chiu

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:49:25 -0800 (PST)
From: fwan 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....

Hi! All of you,
I think it is a good idea that we have a Christmas party or meeting for
those who lives in foreign Countries.  I lives in San Gabriel, Southern
California.  Who else?  Who wants to have that party or meeting?
Herman

 On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:08:49 -0500
> From: Saint FiftynineR 
> To: tom.lui@utoronto.ca
> Subject: 
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
>         Are you going back to HK this christmas? I guess we will have quite
> a lot of people on the list going back to HK for the last christmas before
> 97. If you do, let's have a party in HK with other buddies on the list. Let
> me know :) Thanx!
> 
> Gilbert
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $       Saint FiftynineR        $
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> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 96 15:32:40 -0800
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     I want to have a party for all the listers too.
     
     I live in San Diego, Southern California.  Any one else?
     
     Lik

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....
Author:  Non-HP-fwan (fwan@scf.usc.edu) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
Date:    11/19/96 12:49 PM

Hi! All of you,
I think it is a good idea that we have a Christmas party or meeting for 
those who lives in foreign Countries.  I lives in San Gabriel, Southern 
California.  Who else?  Who wants to have that party or meeting?
Herman
     
 On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:
     
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:08:49 -0500
> From: Saint FiftynineR  
> To: tom.lui@utoronto.ca
> Subject: 
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
>         Are you going back to HK this christmas? I guess we will have quite 
> a lot of people on the list going back to HK for the last christmas before 
> 97. If you do, let's have a party in HK with other buddies on the list. Let 
> me know :) Thanx!
> 
> Gilbert
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $       Saint FiftynineR        $
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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> 
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:44:41 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....

Hi Everyone,

I'm going to H.K., too!  But just for 20 days, gotta get back here for
school. 8(

Bonnie

On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:08:49 -0500
> From: Saint FiftynineR 
> To: tom.lui@utoronto.ca
> Subject: 
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
>         Are you going back to HK this christmas? I guess we will have quite
> a lot of people on the list going back to HK for the last christmas before
> 97. If you do, let's have a party in HK with other buddies on the list. Let
> me know :) Thanx!
> 
> Gilbert
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $       Saint FiftynineR        $
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $  http://www.egr.uh.edu/~st59r $
> $  http://www.gaianet.net/~hkb  $
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $        Houston, Texas         $
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 01:25:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Sara Leung 
Sender: Sara Leung 
Subject: Re: Re; Recency
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 

On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Will Wong wrote:

> WW: huh?  Do you have a cold?...hehe....  I'll try to hold back the 
> cleaver, you crazy rival! kekekek....

%%%%%Sara:Heh?!Who are you rivals with??Not with a peace keeping being 
like me....--are u choking??!There,there now......

> e pissed as a fan too) --BUT: Shirley is *still* singing (and mentioned 
> briefly here and there), it is just a
> matter of time before we get something new from her...So,till the day 
> that 'e says she'll stop singing,she'll still be number one in the 
> *loyal*
> fans POV....Or,in the realllly devoted fans POV, whether she continues 
> to sing or not. 
> WW: I may not be a "realllly devoted fan", but nevertheless I still am a 
> fan! And since when is it a requirement to be a "realllly devoted 
> fan"?....I'm sure not everyone of us on the list is a crazy devotee 
> to Shirley....what makes you more important if you are a "realllly 
> devoted fan"?  In other words, who really cares about the diff?

%%%%%Sara:My point in the first place ( -N- emails ago.....)was that true 
fans won't stray. I did not say, "Every one on the 'e List needs to be 
checked for loyalty!!!!".I don't think other 'e Listers wanna hear about 
this discussion again,so let's drop it OK?I mean,u can go on,but I'm done here.

> *****Sara:Thanks for the Psych lecture, I stab myself for not paying 
> more attention in my lectures..ps:Keith,u were wrong(though I liked the 
> Linus theory more!!!!!!!!!!)
> WW: Hey, it's not a sin to "not pay attention in lectures"..hehe...
> Why should you "stab yourself"?...kekekek...

%%%%%Sara:"Stab myself" It's a term that's used.Check a "frequently used 
phrases manual" if ya don't believe me-- and make sure it's a British 
manual..... 

> WW: Hey, that's impressive....if this was a Sandy Lam debate, I would be 
> in your shoes....where did you ever get the mandarin edition of "EX"?  
> What's the difference from the Cantonese one?.....  Oh you have the 
> Japanese edit. of "Story"?....Cool....is there anything different in it 
> from the HK release?.....It's like $40 in Toronto....and I looked at the 
> price and thought, gee, I could buy  2 CDs for that price....

%%%%%Sara:I bought the Ex one in HK--the only difference is there are 2 
songs:"Forget Him"is in Mandarin(if u have the 95 compilation<"sai toe 
serng">,it's there-- "Pity" ho sik..)and another song is sung in 
Mand,"This is love"other than that,the whole album is the same...

As for the Jap "Story of.."--not reccomended if u have the HK one already--
When I asked the storekeeper what the diff was,I was told that it's 
recorded in better quality--unless I'm deaf,I can't tell the diff.
And,the songs are all the same,except for a few old ones added on for the 
Japanese audience(eg Dela,Dear,etc..)

Thanks for describing the vids--where did you get them again?? 
What other vids are worth mentioning??I was told that the "Faded love legend"
 vid was really cool--where 'e does some groovy 
dance moves...

> pps:Could someone pls explain why some artists make an MTV 
then > especially go and make another one for the Karaoke???!
> WW: Because TVB and PolyGram are separate entities...sometimes it's 
> cheaper for PolyGram to make their own video than buying the rights to 
> the TVB ones and put them on their LDs....

%%%%%Sara:Thanks for all the feedback from everybody on this one!!
 
Ps--a word to all the Vancouver 'e Listers:Come on!!I've only had one 
reply so far(JoJo)!!I'm sure there are more!!!!!!!The snow hasn't taken 
your access to emailing away,has it??!!

Later folks,
  _______________________________________    
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 |     ____|    o    |    o    |    o    |    Vancouver B.C. 
 |         |         |      ___|         |    Canada
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                       the hell are u so sad?!..."        --S.C.
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:24:26 +1000 (GMT+1000)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: s312205@student.uq.edu.au (Coffee)
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....

Hi this is coffee from 'eXquiSite, i'm going back to HK 2 !!!!!!!!!! Party
????? please add my name on the list please !!!!!!!!!!! How many 'e fans
actually in HK or going back to HK anyway ??????????? 

Coffee



>     I want to have a party for all the listers too.
>     
>     I live in San Diego, Southern California.  Any one else?
>     
>     Lik
>
>
>______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
>Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....
>Author:  Non-HP-fwan (fwan@scf.usc.edu) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
>Date:    11/19/96 12:49 PM
>
>
>Hi! All of you,
>I think it is a good idea that we have a Christmas party or meeting for 
>those who lives in foreign Countries.  I lives in San Gabriel, Southern 
>California.  Who else?  Who wants to have that party or meeting?
>Herman
>     
> On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 tom.lui@utoronto.ca wrote:
>     
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
>> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 23:08:49 -0500
>> From: Saint FiftynineR  
>> To: tom.lui@utoronto.ca
>> Subject: 
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>>         Are you going back to HK this christmas? I guess we will have quite 
>> a lot of people on the list going back to HK for the last christmas before 
>> 97. If you do, let's have a party in HK with other buddies on the list. Let 
>> me know :) Thanx!
>> 
>> Gilbert
>> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>> $       Saint FiftynineR        $
>> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>> $  http://www.egr.uh.edu/~st59r $
>> $  http://www.gaianet.net/~hkb  $
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>> 
>> 
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:19:46 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna 
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....

At 12:24 AM 11/21/96 +1000, coffee wrote:
>Hi this is coffee from 'eXquiSite, i'm going back to HK 2 !!!!!!!!!! Party
>????? please add my name on the list please !!!!!!!!!!! How many 'e fans
>actually in HK or going back to HK anyway ??????????? 

this is on on/anna. i am going back to hk 4 x'mas too! count me in for a hk
e' list gathering. btw, shld we find someone to coordinate the whole matter?

love, on on

____________________________________________________________________________
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you lemons, make lemonade!/  \_______/  \    
Yum! Yum! Then pour it on/               \   
someone's head.        _ _ _ _^     ^_ _ _ _ 
Not mine, of course   -_-_-_-_   0   _-_-_-_-
			        U_U			 
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:45:34 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

Hi Will,

What are those "kekekeke" and "hehehehehe",  you sound like a psycho or
something.

Bonnie

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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:49:13 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: STOP SENDING 1 SENTENCE REPLIES!!!!!

Hi Jo Jo,

Vancouver is pretty nice.  I've been there twice for summer.  It's nice in
summer.  

Yeah, California is nice, too, with Beverly Hills, Melrose, Rodeo, Venice
Beach, Santa Monica,.....etc.

Bonnie


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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 04:20:04 +1000 (GMT+1000)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: s312205@student.uq.edu.au (Coffee)
Subject: 'e fans HK gathering !!!!! How about that ???

Hello is Coffee again , anyone interested in having a 'e fans gathering in HK???

if u r interested, drop me an email at ---->  s312205@student.uq.edu.au

or simply reply to 'e list !!!!!!!

How about lets talk about it thru. IRC ?????????? all the 'e fans have an
IRC session together ????????? 

p.s. the gathering could be sometime b4 Christmas, sounds okay to u all
?????? if not please recommend a date, also think about what we can do in
the gathering ????? EAT EAT EAT EAT AND EAT ???????????? :) 



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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:27:23 -0600 (CST)
From: Saint FiftynineR 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: 'e people in HK

Hi HK people,

	Are you all available for a 'e party during christmas? I will be
arriving HK on Dec 15 and leaving on Jan 10. What kind of party do you all
like? I really want a BBQ cus I never had a HK style BBQ the last 2 times
I came back. Karaoke? Or anything else? Alright... See you all in HK! 

Gilbert 

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From: Tam Ignatius 
Subject: Fire broke out...
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:34:39 +0800 (HKT)

This is totally unrelated (sorry!), but just as it's the worst fire in
recent history in Hongkong that you guys who don't have access to
HK newspaper should take a look.  It's a horrendous blaze in Yau
Ma Tei broke out at 4pm yesterday and lasts overnight causing at least
7 deaths, 70 injured and 40 missing.  Go to http://www.hkstandard.com/
for English and Chinese or http://www.mingpao.com/ for Chinese.

such a bad day...

-iGnatius
-- 

--*-- ..........................................................--*--
-* iGnatius tAm *-     HKG Int'l Airport SITA CUTE/OS operations   *-
*     What is CUTE?  Visit its homepage: http://www.sitaaps.org     *

   Work: 2769 7833     Pager: 7234 7207     Email: itam@hkstar.com

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:44:42 +0800 (HKT)
From: Tong Lai Yin 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Fire broke out...

On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Tam Ignatius wrote:

> This is totally unrelated (sorry!), but just as it's the worst fire in
> recent history in Hongkong that you guys who don't have access to
> HK newspaper should take a look.  It's a horrendous blaze in Yau
> Ma Tei broke out at 4pm yesterday and lasts overnight causing at least
> 7 deaths, 70 injured and 40 missing.  Go to http://www.hkstandard.com/
> for English and Chinese or http://www.mingpao.com/ for Chinese.
> 
> such a bad day...

That may not be totally inrelated!Do you know that the building on fire 
is where PolyGram (Studio) is located?



> 
> -iGnatius
> -- 
> 
> --*-- ..........................................................--*--
> -* iGnatius tAm *-     HKG Int'l Airport SITA CUTE/OS operations   *-
> *     What is CUTE?  Visit its homepage: http://www.sitaaps.org     *
> 
>    Work: 2769 7833     Pager: 7234 7207     Email: itam@hkstar.com
> 

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:38:51 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Pseudonym Chan <95241950d@hkpucc.polyu.edu.hk>
Subject: Are you ruin the 'e list???

To whose ruin the 'e list,
        Do you think you are doing the right thing, by sending personal
message, nothing related to Shirley, to the 'e list. Although it just "ONE
SENTENE"!!!
        You are ruin the 'e list now!!!
        What I can say: you are not a Shirley's fan, but to destroy the
realm of Shirley!!
        I don't want to mention who that person is. But I hope that person
can behave herself!! Please send your personal message to the exact address!!

Pseudonym 

-----------------------------------

Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:12:22 -0800
From: Return 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: (no subject)

Wei Bonnie:

>What are those "kekekeke" and "hehehehehe",  you sound like a psycho or
>something.WW: I just like to laugh alot.....  "kekekekek" is the HK laugh that 
lingers in my
HK blood....  "Hehehehe" is the laugh that I got from whitewashed society 
I 
have grown up in.....   Maybe I am a psycho....I don't know.....  Maybe 
it's indicative
of an inner identity struggle: White or Chinese?  Or maybe the fact that 
I use both
laughs shows some type of intermingling of the two ethnic groups in my 
self-identity?

I saw the Shirley VCD!  It's $13- in Toronto....how much is it in HK/US?
Just comparing prices....curious...hehehe.....

Will .   .
        U

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:17:58 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna 
Subject: Re: Are you ruin the 'e list???

At 01:38 PM 11/21/96 +0800, Pseudonym wrote:
>To whose ruin the 'e list,
>        Do you think you are doing the right thing, by sending personal
>message, nothing related to Shirley, to the 'e list. Although it just "ONE
>SENTENE"!!!
>        You are ruin the 'e list now!!!
>        What I can say: you are not a Shirley's fan, but to destroy the
>realm of Shirley!!
>        I don't want to mention who that person is. But I hope that person
>can behave herself!! Please send your personal message to the exact address!!

Are you talking about the person who have send a message about the fire in
HK? I do not think that is to be frowned on. It is very important info' one
wld like to know. 

Ppl who join the e' list are those who are interested in HK. Because Shirley
is from HK. So we care about things. Imagine, if we are in the periods of
Tiananmen square 1989, or World War 2 or sth. We wld like to know more about
the region and so on inaddition to info' on kwan suke e'... 

on on

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:34:57 +1100 (EST)
From: Ronald Chi Ho Tam 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Are you ruin the 'e list???

To all multiple recipients:
     I agree of what Pseudonym said, those people are just keep doing 
their personal nonsense fighting on the 'e list and really distorted the 
suppose of this list!!! I'll unsubscribe the 'e list soon coz the meaning 
of this list is no longer here!!! I don't want those nonsense messages 
stuck up my mail box!!! Do the right thing please!!

                                                      Shirley's real fans
                                                      Ronald

On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Pseudonym Chan wrote:

> To whose ruin the 'e list,
>         Do you think you are doing the right thing, by sending personal
> message, nothing related to Shirley, to the 'e list. Although it just "ONE
> SENTENE"!!!
>         You are ruin the 'e list now!!!
>         What I can say: you are not a Shirley's fan, but to destroy the
> realm of Shirley!!
>         I don't want to mention who that person is. But I hope that person
> can behave herself!! Please send your personal message to the exact address!!
> 
> Pseudonym 
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:41:48 +1100 (EST)
From: Ronald Chi Ho Tam 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Are you ruin the 'e list???

On On: 
      I think Pseudonym was not pointing to that disastrous news happened 
yesterday, but rather to those messages which is totally unrelated to 
Shirley in any circumstances!!
      We are happy to hear news happened in HK but totally not interested 
of what's the fighting up to between 2 persons, that's just too childish!!
                                                              Ronald

On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, on on/anna wrote:

> At 01:38 PM 11/21/96 +0800, Pseudonym wrote:
> >To whose ruin the 'e list,
> >        Do you think you are doing the right thing, by sending personal
> >message, nothing related to Shirley, to the 'e list. Although it just "ONE
> >SENTENE"!!!
> >        You are ruin the 'e list now!!!
> >        What I can say: you are not a Shirley's fan, but to destroy the
> >realm of Shirley!!
> >        I don't want to mention who that person is. But I hope that person
> >can behave herself!! Please send your personal message to the exact address!!
> 
> Are you talking about the person who have send a message about the fire in
> HK? I do not think that is to be frowned on. It is very important info' one
> wld like to know. 
> 
> Ppl who join the e' list are those who are interested in HK. Because Shirley
> is from HK. So we care about things. Imagine, if we are in the periods of
> Tiananmen square 1989, or World War 2 or sth. We wld like to know more about
> the region and so on inaddition to info' on kwan suke e'... 
> 
> on on
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:10:49 -0800 (PST)
From: John Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Fire broke out...

On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Cathain Cheung wrote:

> > That may not be totally inrelated!Do you know that the building on fire
> > is where PolyGram (Studio) is located?

What?!  Is that true?!

> The renew news about the tragedy is 50 death!!  I just can't believe it!
> Are you still remember "KP" ?!  I cried and can't sleep all the night!
> What's happen in here?  Let us pray to the people who are still stay at the
> hospital and bless them!!

Humm....what's that in BIG-5?  I am not at home now so I can't decode it
using pine.

Let's pray for those who injured in the fire...

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 _  | |___| |_  _ _   | __|__ _ _  __ _  San Francisco State University
| |_| / _ \ ' \| ' \  | _/ _ \ ' \/ _` | jfong@sfsu.edu  jfong@futon.sfsu.edu
 \___/\___/_||_|_||_| |_|\___/_||_\__, | WWW: http://futon.sfsu.edu/~jfong
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:27:21 +1000 (GMT+1000)
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: s312205@student.uq.edu.au (Coffee)
Subject: Re: Fire broke out..

Oh please talk about the 'e fans gathering ??????????????????? i really
looking forward to meet u all !!!!!

Coffee 

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 02:56:36 +0800 (HKT)
From: LMK 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Fire broke out...

On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, John Fong wrote:

> > > That may not be totally inrelated!Do you know that the building on fire
> > > is where PolyGram (Studio) is located?
> What?!  Is that true?!

It was said that Polygram stores the master copies of the songs there. 

> Humm....what's that in BIG-5?  I am not at home now so I can't decode it
> using pine.
> Let's pray for those who injured in the fire...

This was a really serious disaster.  You can find details in SingTao news
:  http://www.singtao.com/news/special.html .

[LMK :P]

 < WEB: http://www.cs.cuhk.edu.hk/~mkleung/ | EMAIL:lmk@moon.csc.cuhk.edu.hk >


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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:48:13 -0800 (PST)
From: John Fong 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Fire broke out...

On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, LMK wrote:

> It was said that Polygram stores the master copies of the songs there. 

A really bad news to PolyGram...

> This was a really serious disaster.  You can find details in SingTao news
> :  http://www.singtao.com/news/special.html .

Will check when I back home...

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| |_| / _ \ ' \| ' \  | _/ _ \ ' \/ _` | jfong@sfsu.edu  jfong@futon.sfsu.edu
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:29:13 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Pseudonym Chan <95241950d@hkpucc.polyu.edu.hk>
Subject: Re: Are you ruin the 'e list???

At 06:41 PM 11/21/96 +1100, you wrote:
>On On: 
>      I think Pseudonym was not pointing to that disastrous news happened 
>yesterday, but rather to those messages which is totally unrelated to 
>Shirley in any circumstances!!
>      We are happy to hear news happened in HK but totally not interested 
>of what's the fighting up to between 2 persons, that's just too childish!!
>                                                              Ronald
>
>On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, on on/anna wrote:
>
>> At 01:38 PM 11/21/96 +0800, Pseudonym wrote:
>> >To whose ruin the 'e list,
>> >        Do you think you are doing the right thing, by sending personal
>> >message, nothing related to Shirley, to the 'e list. Although it just "ONE
>> >SENTENE"!!!
>> >        You are ruin the 'e list now!!!
>> >        What I can say: you are not a Shirley's fan, but to destroy the
>> >realm of Shirley!!
>> >        I don't want to mention who that person is. But I hope that person
>> >can behave herself!! Please send your personal message to the exact
address!!
>> 
>> Are you talking about the person who have send a message about the fire in
>> HK? I do not think that is to be frowned on. It is very important info' one
>> wld like to know. 
>> 
>> Ppl who join the e' list are those who are interested in HK. Because Shirley
>> is from HK. So we care about things. Imagine, if we are in the periods of
>> Tiananmen square 1989, or World War 2 or sth. We wld like to know more about
>> the region and so on inaddition to info' on kwan suke e'... 
>> 
>> on on

Yes, I am not talking about ppl sending message about the tragedy.

I am pointing to whose sending message, just asking "where do you live??",
"I like ONE SENTENCE MESSAGE", "I am in somewhere and take some course, are
you the same??" or something like that. All these are nonsense personal
thing, ever Shirley will be interested in these nonsense thing????

Again, I hope the Shirley's fan in 'e list can behave yourself!!

Pseudonym Chan

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:13:54 -0800 (PST)
From: fwan 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: upk@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Are you ruin the 'e list???

On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Pseudonym Chan wrote:

I think so!  I keep recieving those email that are not related to Shirley!
If one or two is OK, but that's too many!

> To whose ruin the 'e list,
>         Do you think you are doing the right thing, by sending personal
> message, nothing related to Shirley, to the 'e list. Although it just "ONE
> SENTENE"!!!
>         You are ruin the 'e list now!!!
>         What I can say: you are not a Shirley's fan, but to destroy the
> realm of Shirley!!
>         I don't want to mention who that person is. But I hope that person
> can behave herself!! Please send your personal message to the exact address!!
> 
> Pseudonym 
> 
> 

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:19:49 -0800 (PST)
From: fwan 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: upk@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Are you ruin the 'e list???

On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, on on/anna wrote:

> At 01:38 PM 11/21/96 +0800, Pseudonym wrote:
> >To whose ruin the 'e list,
> >        Do you think you are doing the right thing, by sending personal
> >message, nothing related to Shirley, to the 'e list. Although it just "ONE
> >SENTENE"!!!
> >        You are ruin the 'e list now!!!
> >        What I can say: you are not a Shirley's fan, but to destroy the
> >realm of Shirley!!
> >        I don't want to mention who that person is. But I hope that person
> >can behave herself!! Please send your personal message to the exact address!!
> 
> Are you talking about the person who have send a message about the fire in
> HK? I do not think that is to be frowned on. It is very important info' one
> wld like to know. 
> 
> Ppl who join the e' list are those who are interested in HK. Because Shirley
> is from HK. So we care about things. Imagine, if we are in the periods of
> Tiananmen square 1989, or World War 2 or sth. We wld like to know more about
> the region and so on inaddition to info' on kwan suke e'... 
> 
> on on
> 
On On,
I don't think that guy wants to blame the one who sent the information of
the fire!  it's really a tragedy!   

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Date: 	Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:43:42 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: e's homepage

To all of e's fans:

I find a homepage which is not shown on 'e space and e threater. 
http://susis.ust.hk/~caniggia/shirley/index.html
I'm not sure it is a new homepage or not. Please visit it if you 
haven't before. I think it does relate to Shirley. If it doesn't,
I am sorry. I don't meant to piss someone off.

Tom
Nov. 21



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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:32:04 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna 
Subject: Re: e's homepage

At 04:43 PM 11/21/96 -0500, tom lui wrote:
>I find a homepage which is not shown on 'e space and e threater. 
>http://susis.ust.hk/~caniggia/shirley/index.html

Yes, I have seen it before. But some samply of songs listed could not be
found. And the site is a bit old (renew more than 1 yr ago) If you go to:
http://www.iscs.nus.sg/~leeyongm/
You would find this link there too. This guy has quite complete links for HK
Pop star. Really a spot of interests. You can check it out. But recently,
the page is under reconstruction. So it takes some time to go back to see
the old main page... Chiao.

on on

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 14:32:42 -0800
Subject: Re: e's homepage
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     Tom:
     
     Thanks for sharing this information with us.
     
     This is a public mailing list.  You do not have to be sorry for 
     pissing someone off.  Some people can post what they do not like.  But 
     if they do not like the list, it is their responsibility to remove 
     themselves from the list.
     
     Keep posting as far as it is relate to Shirley and enjoy the list.

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: e's homepage
Author:  Non-HP-tom.lui (tom.lui@utoronto.ca) at HP-Boise,mimegw6
Date:    11/21/96 12:43 PM

To all of e's fans:
     
I find a homepage which is not shown on 'e space and e threater. 
http://susis.ust.hk/~caniggia/shirley/index.html
I'm not sure it is a new homepage or not. Please visit it if you 
haven't before. I think it does relate to Shirley. If it doesn't, 
I am sorry. I don't meant to piss someone off.
     
Tom
Nov. 21
     
     
     

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:09:46 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Are you ruin the 'e list???

Ronald Chi Ho Tam wrote:
> the meaning of this list is no longer here!!!

Just wondering, what's YOUR meaning of this list?

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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From: Tam Ignatius 
Subject: Re: Fire broke out...
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:06:24 +0800 (HKT)

I forget it's where PolyGram located.  From today's news, master tapes
of Teresa Tang, Sam Hui and Michael Kwan may be lost, this is such a
great lost to us.

However it's what Chow Sang Sang's lost is the greatest.

let's pray for the victims and their family.

-iGnatius
> 
> Tong Lai Yin wrote:
> > 
> > That may not be totally inrelated!Do you know that the building on fire
> > is where PolyGram (Studio) is located?
> > 
> > >I really feel so depress and upset all the day!!
> The renew news about the tragedy is 50 death!!  I just can't believe it!
> Are you still remember "KP" ?!  I cried and can't sleep all the night!
> What's happen in here?  Let us pray to the people who are still stay at the
> hospital and bless them!!
> Wrote from CatCat in ill ~catcat@netvigator.com
> 

-- 

--*-- ..........................................................--*--
-* iGnatius tAm *-     HKG Int'l Airport SITA CUTE/OS operations   *-
*     What is CUTE?  Visit its homepage: http://www.sitaaps.org     *

   Work: 2769 7833     Pager: 7234 7207     Email: itam@hkstar.com

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:45:35 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna 
Subject: mailist

I remember earlier ppl have been talking about Kelly Chen in comparison to
quite a lot. And someone commented that she does not have a mailist... Well
in fact she has.
It is here:     sehsuan@singnet.com.sg
Though this is not related to suke e, but in a sense it is, so that, we do
not have to talk about it in suke e list, right? adios.
onon

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:06:40 -0800
From: Return 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: (no subject)

Wei AnAn:

>I remember earlier ppl have been talking about Kelly Chen in comparison to
>quite a lot. And someone commented that she does not have a mailist... Well
>in fact she has.
>It is here:     sehsuan@singnet.com.sg
>Though this is not related to suke e, but in a sense it is, so that, we do
>not have to talk about it in suke e list, right? adios.WW: Well, sure if you call a list that only lets you listen and not 
speak, a "real 
mailing list", then call it that...I've heard about this list 
before....the guy who runs it
is a psycho...he yells at you if you distribute any of the information 
outside the list...
and he yells at you if you reply to him on the list....  Holy 
Hitler.....the list has about 
10-15 people on it last time I heard about it....

Anyhow, when we were talking about Kelly Chen on this list, it was 
relevant because
we were talking about her record sales and her voice in contrast to 
Shirley's....

I sense a lot of tension on this list.....  

Keith, how do you get the digest version of this list?  daw jeh nay!

Will    . .
         U

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:47:24 -0800
From: Cathain Cheung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Fire broke out...

Tong Lai Yin wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Tam Ignatius wrote:
> 
> > This is totally unrelated (sorry!), but just as it's the worst fire in
> > recent history in Hongkong that you guys who don't have access to
> > HK newspaper should take a look.  It's a horrendous blaze in Yau
> > Ma Tei broke out at 4pm yesterday and lasts overnight causing at least
> > 7 deaths, 70 injured and 40 missing.  Go to http://www.hkstandard.com/
> > for English and Chinese or http://www.mingpao.com/ for Chinese.
> >
> > such a bad day...
> 
> That may not be totally inrelated!Do you know that the building on fire
> is where PolyGram (Studio) is located?
> 
> >
> > -iGnatius
> > --
> >
> > --*-- ..........................................................--*--
> > -* iGnatius tAm *-     HKG Int'l Airport SITA CUTE/OS operations   *-
> > *     What is CUTE?  Visit its homepage: http://www.sitaaps.org     *
> >
> >    Work: 2769 7833     Pager: 7234 7207     Email: itam@hkstar.com
> >I really feel so depress and upset all the day!!
The renew news about the tragedy is 50 death!!  I just can't believe it!
Are you still remember "KP" ?!  I cried and can't sleep all the night!
What's happen in here?  Let us pray to the people who are still stay at the
hospital and bless them!!
Wrote from CatCat in ill ~catcat@netvigator.com

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 02:52:12 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: on on/anna 

remember someone asked me about the french album where suke e got 4 songs
covered from, including "fake love","under the starlight","untied
kite","calm light"... i am sorry to tell you that i do not have the cd w/ me
t this moment. my sis has it. the name of the singer is just ELSA. i think
it was made around 1992. the cover of the cd was blue background w/ a b/w
(white=blue) pic of elsa. the back cover is a zoom in macro of a catus. it
is a very nice album. and you can compare her singing technique w/ kwan suke
e's... chiao.
ON ON

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 03:39:22 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: How To Subscribe in Digest Form

At 8:06 PM -0800 11/21/96, Return wrote:

>Keith, how do you get the digest version of this list?  daw jeh nay!

Send
        select shirley-list
        options digest
to listmanager@hookup.net, or drop me a line and I'll do it for you.

Keith


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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 08:18:00 -0800
Subject: Members.
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

     > and he yells at you if you reply to him on the list....  Holy 
     >Hitler.....the list has about 
     > 10-15 people on it last time I heard about it....
     
     Just curious, how many people are on this list? 
     
     > Will    . .
     > U

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:56:54 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Fire broke out...

Hi Everyone,

Yeah, I watched it on the News, too.  It's a tragedy!

Bonnie (L.A.)

On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Tam Ignatius wrote:

> This is totally unrelated (sorry!), but just as it's the worst fire in
> recent history in Hongkong that you guys who don't have access to
> HK newspaper should take a look.  It's a horrendous blaze in Yau
> Ma Tei broke out at 4pm yesterday and lasts overnight causing at least
> 7 deaths, 70 injured and 40 missing.  Go to http://www.hkstandard.com/
> for English and Chinese or http://www.mingpao.com/ for Chinese.
> 
> such a bad day...
> 
> -iGnatius
> -- 
> 
> --*-- ..........................................................--*--
> -* iGnatius tAm *-     HKG Int'l Airport SITA CUTE/OS operations   *-
> *     What is CUTE?  Visit its homepage: http://www.sitaaps.org     *
> 
>    Work: 2769 7833     Pager: 7234 7207     Email: itam@hkstar.com
> 

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:01:16 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Hi Will,

The VCDs here in L.A. is about $12 - $14.

Bonnie

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:25:52 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
cc: upk@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Are you ruin the 'e list???

Hi Everyone,

If my so called "personal messages" bother you guys so much, then I'm
sorry!

Personally, I don't think that is such a big deal, as long as I don't
overdo it.  

It takes at least two to send "personal messages", as I recall, somebody
started it first.  Anyway....it's no point to talk about that now.

So don't worry, Pseudonmy, no more "personal messages" in your mailbox.

Bonnie

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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:37:25 -0800 (PST)
From: bonnieyu 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: The song "Still Shedding Tears"

Hi Everyone,

Recently, I listen to the "Montage II" CD when I drive, and the song
"Still Shedding Tears"  (forgot the track number) is so good, I like it a
lot.  It proves once again that Shirley's songs are so good that you enjoy
listening it it even though they are like, 5 or 6 years ago.

Bonnie

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:37:16 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: Members.
Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net

At 8:18 AM -0800 11/22/96, LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com wrote:
>     > and he yells at you if you reply to him on the list....  Holy
>     >Hitler.....the list has about
>     > 10-15 people on it last time I heard about it....
>
>     Just curious, how many people are on this list?

About 80.

Keith


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Date: 23 Nov 1996 10:23:20 EDT
Subject: Re: Members.

SH>At 8:18 AM -0800 11/22/96, LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com wrote:
SH>>     > and he yells at you if you reply to him on the list....  Holy
SH>>     >Hitler.....the list has about
SH>>     > 10-15 people on it last time I heard about it....
SH>>
SH>>     Just curious, how many people are on this list?

SH>About 80.

Just curious again, how many people are on our list?

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:45:26 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Re: Members.

At 10:23 AM -0400 11/23/96, dacheung@mmhs.markham.on.ca wrote:

>SH>>     Just curious, how many people are on this list?
>
>SH>About 80.
>
>Just curious again, how many people are on our list?

By "about 80", I'm referring to 'e list.

Keith


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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 96 09:40:28 -0500
From: "Bulldog's Better Half" 

-- [ From: Bulldog's Better Half * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Hi!

Can anything please explain to me what happened exactly a few years back,
the time when Shirley released "Dela", to give rise to the rumour that
Shirley "stole" Anita Mui's boyfriend - Lam Kwok Bun? Did Anita Mui tell the
press about that, or was Shirley photographed with Lam? I have seen an
interview of Shirley by "Entertainment News". They didn't talk about the
cause of the rumour, but Shirley said that she didn't even know Lam well.
That's all I know. I think that rumour almost destroyed Shirley's career. So
I really want to know what gave rise to it, and why people gave it that much
credibility. Does anyone know? 

mimi

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From: "J Fong" 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: e's homepage
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:58:20 -0800

Hello Keith,

I don't know why, but I am using Internet Explorer's e-mail program to read
e-mails, and found those from you is defined as attachment, and I had a
hard time to read them as I haven't figure out what file extension should
assign to the text attachment =(

(Probably I will be using IE to read mail from now as it can filter out
mails to different mbox I defined....good for people who is in many mailing
lists =) )

talk to you later...

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> From: LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
> To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list

> Cc: shirley-list@hookup.net
> Subject: Re: e's homepage
> Date: Thursday, November 21, 1996 2:32 PM
> 

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:41:45 +0800
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Simon Leung 
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Fire Kills 37
Status: U

In fact there were 39 persons killed in this terrible incident, in which 33
of them were burnt severely that were hardly recognized their identities.
Till now, 30 of these 33 bodies' identities were checked and initially
confirmed.

May God bless them all! 

At 10:38 AM 11/25/96 -0800,   LIK_LEUNG@non-hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com wrote:
>Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
>     Here is the report I found on CND.
>     
>     -------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Hong Kong Fire Kills 37
>     
>     [CND, 11/21/96]  On Thursday morning rescue teams found 37 bodies in 
>     the
>     rubbles of an office buliding that was caught on fire some 20 hours 
>     ago,
>     which turned out to be the worst in Hong Kong's modern history, 
>     according
>     to reports of international media.  The fire started out Wednesday
>     afternoon in the Garley Building on Kowloon's crowded Nathan Road.  
>     Some
>     200 firefighters, 38 fire engines, and two choppers rushed to the 
>     scean
>     and saved almost 100 lives.  Among the 37 bodies found, 22 were pulled
>     out from a goldshop on the 12th floor.  A firefighter died of falling 
>     down
>     an elevator shaft.  A number of people caught in the building jumped 
>     out of
>     the windows and survived, including a man who leapt from floor seven.  
>     Some
>     used their fingertips to cling to air conditioners outside of the 
>     windows
>     of the high-rise until the rescue teams came to save them.  Governor 
>     Chris
>     Patten visited the site late Wednesday night and city officials said 
>     that
>     two teams were organized to investigate the cause.  (Vic CHIN, YIN De 
>     An,
>     Daluo JIA, Ray ZHANG)
>       
>
>

Simon Leung
SJC, HK

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 10:38:24 -0800
Subject: Hong Kong Fire Kills 37
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Cc: shirley-list-digest@hookup.net

Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
     Here is the report I found on CND.
     
     -------------------------------------------------------------------
     Hong Kong Fire Kills 37
     
     [CND, 11/21/96]  On Thursday morning rescue teams found 37 bodies in 
     the
     rubbles of an office buliding that was caught on fire some 20 hours 
     ago,
     which turned out to be the worst in Hong Kong's modern history, 
     according
     to reports of international media.  The fire started out Wednesday
     afternoon in the Garley Building on Kowloon's crowded Nathan Road.  
     Some
     200 firefighters, 38 fire engines, and two choppers rushed to the 
     scean
     and saved almost 100 lives.  Among the 37 bodies found, 22 were pulled
     out from a goldshop on the 12th floor.  A firefighter died of falling 
     down
     an elevator shaft.  A number of people caught in the building jumped 
     out of
     the windows and survived, including a man who leapt from floor seven.  
     Some
     used their fingertips to cling to air conditioners outside of the 
     windows
     of the high-rise until the rescue teams came to save them.  Governor 
     Chris
     Patten visited the site late Wednesday night and city officials said 
     that
     two teams were organized to investigate the cause.  (Vic CHIN, YIN De 
     An,
     Daluo JIA, Ray ZHANG)
       

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:03:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Terry Fung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....
Status: U

Sorry, but I can't figure out who sent me the Winnie the Pooh e-mail.
Don't seem to recall ever e-mailing to your e-mail address... please
identify yourself in your reply. Thanx.
Terry

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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:22:59 -0800
From: Lik Leung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Latest news.

Hi, All:

   It is closing to Thanksgiving and seems that everybody is busy and no
one is on the list.

   I just read something regarding Shirley on the Chinese World News. 
She went to Argentina and is making a movie over there now. 

   Does anyone have the latest new about Shirley?

   Happy Thanksgiving.

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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:46:51 -0500 (EST)
From: BEN LUI 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: New member

Hi there Shirley fans,I've just been added to your list!! I'm a university 
student in the Canada!
 
Hope I get a reply from one of you!
 
See you later!!
                                                                   Ben Lui

 

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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 02:53:34 -0500
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
From: Keith Hui 
Subject: Shirley's Cover Versions

Hi,

A while back, On On mentioned about an album by the French singer Elsa,
>from which Shirley covered a few songs from. I think it'd be a good idea to
put together a list. Anyone has more info of this sort? So far we have

>From Elsa
-- "Fake Love" "R
-- "Under the star light..."-ePU
-- "Untied Kite" ۣu-Ἄ
-- "Calm light" -R@O

I'm sure there're a lot more.

Keith


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From: Bob Cheung 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Re: New member
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 06:03:16 -0700 ()

On Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:46:51 -0500 (EST) BEN LUI 
 wrote:

> 
> Hi there Shirley fans,I've just been added to your list!! I'm a university 
> student in the Canada!
>  
> Hope I get a reply from one of you!
>  
> See you later!!
>                                                                    Ben Lui
> 
>  
Hello!

An

i am Bob from Calgary....
I am as new as you are, haha

bye bye
----------------------
Bob Cheung
wmbcheun@acs.ucalgary.ca


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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 96 22:05:45 UT
From: "Yik-Mien Ng" 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: RE: 

Hi Onon,

remember someone asked me about the french album where suke e got 4 songs
covered from, including "fake love","under the starlight","untied
kite","calm light"... i am sorry to tell you that i do not have the cd w/ me
t this moment. my sis has it. the name of the singer is just ELSA. i think
it was made around 1992. the cover of the cd was blue background w/ a b/w
(white=blue) pic of elsa. the back cover is a zoom in macro of a catus. it
is a very nice album. and you can compare her singing technique w/ kwan suke
e's... chiao.

May I know what is the tiltle of the song inFrench?

I just got some information from Columbia Music Club

 ELSA GARCIA

Album Title:

 TU SOLAMENTE TU
LIVE VOL.1
PASION
ESCAPATE CONMIGO

Do you know which one is it.

--------
Yik-Mien Ng
ymng@msn.com

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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:21:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Saint FiftynineR 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: RE: 

Hey,

	Another qeustion about her cover versions... In her "Fake Love,"
is the guitar solo at the ending done by a HK session player or it is
copied directly from Elsa's song? The solo is really nice :)

Gilbert

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Date: 	Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:18:39 -0800
From: Jo Jo 
To: Multiple recipients of the shirley-list list 
Subject: Fire

I was reading Ming Pao today and was told that Shirley's producer - 
Joseph Ip was the first one to notice smoke in the hallway via the 
surveillance camera.  He then called the police with his cell phone and 
rushed down the stairs with other people in the studio.  They were 
believed to be the first group to escape.

Jo Jo
-- 
* My Secret Garden *

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